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Andrew Garfield and his ‘Artificial’ cast mates discussed the dangers of artificial intelligence at the premiere of the upcoming biographical comedy drama, based on the career of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
Andrew was joined by Oscar-winner Mark Rylance, Ike Barinholtz and screenwriter Simon Rich who all shared their opinions of what AI should be used for.
Andrew plays Sam Altman and laughed off Sam describing the trailer as looking like an “awful movie.” Ike portrays Twitter owner Elon Musk and discussed his trepidation of taking on the role while Mark shared his anger at the current state of AI farms.
The film will release in UK cinemas on 22nd January 2027. Report by Burtonj. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
Andrew was joined by Oscar-winner Mark Rylance, Ike Barinholtz and screenwriter Simon Rich who all shared their opinions of what AI should be used for.
Andrew plays Sam Altman and laughed off Sam describing the trailer as looking like an “awful movie.” Ike portrays Twitter owner Elon Musk and discussed his trepidation of taking on the role while Mark shared his anger at the current state of AI farms.
The film will release in UK cinemas on 22nd January 2027. Report by Burtonj. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
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00:01I didn't know he said that.
00:02I hope he likes it, I don't know.
00:05And the second time around, you know, you don't have the same nerves of a first date.
00:25Hey Jamie.
00:26I've been promised one question, one question only.
00:27Well, make it good.
00:28Yeah, right.
00:29How are you?
00:30No.
00:31So I've seen that Sam Altman's obviously not watched the film fully through yet,
00:35but he could have a reaction after the trailer dropped.
00:37And I saw the quote, he said a quote looks like an awful movie.
00:41Did you see that?
00:42I didn't know he said that.
00:43Yeah, yeah.
00:44So how does that make you feel against when Pete has his portrayal?
00:47And do you think he'll change his mind after seeing the film?
00:50I don't know.
00:51I have a lot of compassion.
00:53Like, imagine someone makes a movie about you and me and it's like, well, this is the definitive story.
01:00We're not saying that.
01:01But like, imagine someone, you know, putting on the talking head shirt that you're wearing and going like, you know,
01:10I have a lot of compassion.
01:11You have to be really resilient to be in that level of power and to be in that position of
01:16responsibility.
01:19You know, it's like being the king of our new world as Vanity Fair kind of crowned him in recent
01:27days.
01:28So it feels very important that we look at the people that we are giving our lives to, that we
01:33are giving our power, our autonomy and our data and our intimacy to.
01:38Because people are getting very, very intimate with this technology.
01:42And it's, it's worth, it's worth doing a little bit of, I don't know, regulating around that for all of
01:50us, I think.
01:51Sure, I'm going to let you go.
01:52But finally, very quickly for me, AI, are you feeling positive or optimistic or pessimistic about it these days?
01:57I'm somewhere in the, I'm in a lot of curiosity.
02:01I, it does feel like the train has left the station.
02:06I think it's our responsibility to, to hold people in power accountable, to make sure that we are all safe,
02:13as safe as can be.
02:15And that each, each human life is being valued equal to the other.
02:20It's a pretty easy job, right?
02:21That's like, it's something that's quite simple to achieve, right?
02:23Like throughout history, we've proven that that's what human beings just do naturally.
02:28So no, I, you know, I, I'm, so I'm, I'm in, I'm, I'm trying to be curious.
02:32I'm trying to see the absurd hilarity of the rate at which the world is changing.
02:37But I'm also really concerned about the damage that could do to the soul of humanity and individuals.
02:55What was it about the topic and the nature of it that appealed to you and made you want to
02:59join the company?
03:00Well, it's lovely to be invited by a director to come and work with them again.
03:04It shows that they enjoyed it.
03:05And the second time round, you know, you don't have the same nerves of a first date.
03:10So, so, and he's very encouraging of me.
03:13And, and I, I enjoy his, his wild perspective on the world and what he's trying to do, Luca.
03:20Then the part was very interesting to me.
03:22I'm not a scientist.
03:23I'm an artist.
03:24But all in my whole life has been about the marriage of commerce and art.
03:28You know, how much you have to change a play or a script to get the commerce to back it.
03:33And that is the same situation for science in this film.
03:37So I was very interested and it seemed like the screenplay was true and a subject that, you know, I
03:43try and do films that I feel are beneficial.
03:46But then it turned out to be a delight because Jeffrey Hinton was so willing to talk with me about,
03:51about the subject matter and about himself.
03:55I think that's a rarity, but the cast, I think you must be one of the few people who managed
03:59to talk to the real people who are portrayed in the film.
04:01Have you heard of like, say, Sam Altman's reaction to him being a host of this film at all?
04:07I haven't. No, it doesn't particularly interest me.
04:10Yeah.
04:11That's fair enough as well.
04:12Obviously, AI is kind of the topic of discussion within the entire premise of the story.
04:16In your opinion, what should AI be used for and what should it not be used for?
04:20It shouldn't be used for anything until they sort out how to store data without taking all our water and
04:27burning so much energy
04:28that they're going to add to the extreme weather that we're about to face, the extinction, the possibility of extinction
04:35that we're facing.
04:37It just cannot be used.
04:39It may be a way forward is that you actually have to control its use, that it's like a very,
04:44I mean, it is the most expensive tool you have in your toolbox at home.
04:48It's something that can do something incredible when you do your DIY.
04:51You don't take it out and bang a nail in with it, you know, with the handle of it, as
04:56people do using AI to book tables or something.
04:58But if it could do something against cancer, if it could do something in the universe to help us understand
05:03what the universe is, there are specific things that that kind of tool.
05:07Now, that might use less data centers and less water.
05:10But the rest of us using it to write letters, for God's sake, and when we live in this beautiful
05:15world with beautiful animals and plants and things,
05:18we're just being seemingly treated even worse and worse and worse as everyone just lives in a false reality.
05:24I don't see it as a very positive thing yet.
05:27But I know that Jeffrey had high hopes for it or such an ethical man wouldn't have worked on the
05:32stuff.
05:32I hope people will listen to him because he doesn't exaggerate and his warnings are pretty tough.
05:37I mean, also, I'm not particularly interested in it being used by the military, which is the main thing it's
05:43doing at the moment.
05:44Military and greedy people. I had to pause to find the right word.
06:01I just heard someone telling you how much of a big fan of yours.
06:04Yeah, but I also am a massive fan because at the moment...
06:06Bigger than her?
06:07I mean, physically, yeah, absolutely.
06:09Yeah, that's true, that's true.
06:09But at the moment, I'm devouring your podcast.
06:12Now? She didn't even mention that. So, who? Who's that over there?
06:15You're the only one I'm talking to. Honestly, it's so bloody fun.
06:18Thank you, man.
06:18I want to talk to you about that in a minute, but let's talk about Artificial First.
06:22Yes, sir.
06:22Of course, there are real people who are portraying in this film.
06:25Yes.
06:26I've seen the quotes that Sam Altman said, quote,
06:28it looks like an awful movie.
06:30Have you heard any rumours or murmurings from what Elon Musk must think of the film or your portrayal?
06:34Jeez, I have not yet. I'm not on Twitter anymore, I have to say.
06:38I've been off that for several years, so that would probably be the first place.
06:42But I have not.
06:44But if he says anything, let me know.
06:47Text me, that way I'll know.
06:48Is a sick part of you really curious to know what he thinks?
06:51Or is there a bit of fear of that, maybe?
06:52No, I mean, there was maybe half a moment when I first was mulling whether or not to do it,
06:58where you're like, oh, no, what if he doesn't like it?
07:00But at the end of the day, this is kind of what happened, and it's kind of the truth.
07:04It's not like we made a crazy satire or a parody about what has happened.
07:11It's like what the Pope said about Mel Gibson's The Passion.
07:15It is as it was.
07:16And so, you know, yeah.
07:19I hope he likes it.
07:21I don't know.
07:21I don't know.
07:22I don't know if he watches movies or plays.
07:23I don't know.
07:24Of course, AI is the topic of discussion.
07:26Yes.
07:26In your opinion, what should AI be used for and what should it not be used for?
07:30It should be the best application of AI is what has been promised to us, which is using
07:38this technology to eradicate cancer and to end world hunger and all those positive things.
07:47And I'm not seeing enough of that yet.
07:50I'm seeing a lot of encroachment into art.
07:53I'm seeing a lot of, oh, look at this sketch.
07:56It's AI, which all that, sorry, all that sucks.
08:00It's very embarrassing.
08:03So, I try to be optimistic in life, but until I see more evidence for it helping mankind
08:12as opposed to usurping mankind and possibly killing mankind, I will have to just hope for
08:21the best, I guess.
08:22I agree.
08:23I agree.
08:24I'm talking about your podcast.
08:25Hey, now.
08:25I'm enjoying it so much.
08:26I want to say thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.
08:28That being like in one of the early episodes to explain why you're doing it.
08:30That being, I like asking my friends trivia questions.
08:33I love it.
08:33It's the most fun thing.
08:35It's so much fun.
08:36It was a thing we started about a year ago and it's just, I never get a chance.
08:42I used to be able to go to pub quizzes, play Trivial Pursuit and I have kids now, you
08:46can't do that.
08:47But I can ask friends of mine to come and spend 90 minutes while I ask them trivia questions
08:52and they ask me.
08:53And it's so much fun.
08:54And I hope we're going to do more because it's something I really enjoy.
08:57I'm enjoying it so much.
08:58Thank you so much.
09:00You made my day for saying that.
09:02Thank you so much.
09:03Hello.
09:03I, so we were in New York.
09:06We had our premiere that night and there was this Vanity Fair interview that came out
09:09that morning and I was just like, oh my God, this is amazing timing.
09:12And he's voted like most powerful person in the world by Vanity Fair.
09:16It was a 45 minute sit down and I found it so fascinating.
09:19And I saw, I heard him say that and I was like, I don't, I would have, I would have
09:25remembered.
09:26I was, I was so aware of looking for him when we were shooting near his house and on the
09:30street.
09:31I didn't see him and I was very, very disappointed that I didn't.
09:35I was, it was thrilling.
09:37It was like exciting and terrifying.
09:40And I was, we were right outside his house and it was, no, but I didn't see him.
09:45And, um, you know, 30 days yet.
09:47I mean, there's already some awards for us talking about this film, you in particular.
09:50How does that feel for you as an actor just to suddenly be in part of that conversation,
09:54you know, sort of as gratifying as we just talked about in that conversation?
09:57It's, as I'm getting older, I'm starting to understand that the things outside of ourselves,
10:08we just have no control over.
10:10Sure.
10:10And the only consistent thing for me is making, trying to make work that I feel really proud
10:18of.
10:18I feel really, really proud of this film.
10:20I feel really, really proud of Luca.
10:22I feel really proud of Jura and Monica and the whole cast and the crew.
10:27So it was a really, really intense shoot.
10:31Um, and then I'm so flattered that anyone is going to see this film in the first place,
10:36let alone talk so nicely about it.
10:40Genuinely, that's my, that's my genuine response.
10:42I try and keep it in that perspective.
10:44And why do you think a film about this subject matter?
10:47It's, it's, it's so important right now.
10:50You know, we've been talking about OpenAI for a while.
10:51Yeah, it's now.
10:52It's here.
10:53It's now.
10:53And it's, and the timing can be more exciting and important, I think, because, you know,
11:02these, I think it's about the figures.
11:04It's about the figures that are in the news right now.
11:06Dario Moday, Sam Altman, Elon, um, and all the major players that are kind of governing
11:12and have the reins, holding the reins of this new technology or loosening or like,
11:17like occasionally losing the reins of this new technology.
11:20It's really about that.
11:21I mean, the technology is the technology and no one understands what it is or where it's
11:24going.
11:25It's a magic technology, obviously.
11:28There's something incredibly powerful and exciting and world changing, which I really
11:34appreciate for all the research I was doing and playing Sam and the kind of, the
11:38discovery of a whole new universe of possibilities.
11:44Endless imaginative, whatever you can imagine, you can create.
11:47Yeah.
11:48Freeing my friends and nine to fives up to live their lives in a more connected and joyful,
11:54I mean, like, these are all the things that, I mean, just a scratching of the surface.
11:58Who knows where it can go?
12:01But, we have to have a look at the people who are holding the reins and make sure that
12:06we are, you know, asking questions.
12:08It definitely was a new experience for me.
12:10I would say the thing that was the strangest or at least the most novel for me was writing
12:16a true story.
12:17All of the work I've done until now has been very surreal and satiric and absurdist and even
12:26supernatural.
12:27And this story is so shocking.
12:29I knew that just being honest and authentic would carry the day more than anything I could
12:36invent.
12:36I was watching Q&A with you the other day talking about this film.
12:39You said that there is a strangely thin line between comedy and horror.
12:43Yes.
12:43Of which we touch on both notes.
12:45Can you delve into that a bit more and what is the crossover, if any?
12:47Yeah.
12:49Well, I think they can be synonymous.
12:51Like, is it funny or horrific that Homer Simpson is in charge of nuclear safety at the
12:56Springfield power plant, right?
12:58It's both, right?
12:59And I think the horror is what makes it funny.
13:01And I think a similar thing is happening over at OpenAI.
13:04Is that not only Homer Simpson in that analogy?
13:07Well, let others draw their own conclusions.
13:09I'm sorry to try and put that in your mouth, sorry.
13:11Hey, I'm a big fan of yours with SNL on the background.
13:13Have you been watching SNL UK at all?
13:14I think it's fantastic.
13:15Who are you in front of in the show?
13:17Like, how do you agree with that?
13:18I saw...
13:19Well, I got to see...
13:21Is his name Forecastle?
13:23Is that his name?
13:24Or...
13:25That's it.
13:26That's it.
13:26Forgive me.
13:27Forgive me for mispronouncing.
13:28Yeah, I got to see him doing the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical at the Fringe a couple years
13:33ago.
13:33He was absolutely astoundingly funny.
13:36And it's been thrilling to see him kill on the show.
13:40But the whole cast is great.
13:41The writers are great.
13:42I'm a huge fan also of the sketch group Sheeps, which is a...
13:47I saw their show at the Fringe as well.
13:50And it was dazzling.
13:52And I think that...
13:52I think one of them is the head writer of SNL UK.
13:56And yeah, I just...
13:57I find it really inspiring.
13:59I think the show is excellent.
13:59I love how much the comedy scene in America would be an editor of the Fringe Festival and
14:04how much interest you guys coming in.
14:06It's like...
14:06My understanding is that since they made the film, they've made a deal with Sam Walton's
14:12company.
14:12There's sort of multiple proving grounds.
14:14You know, there's...
14:16In Chicago, there's Iowa.
14:18There's Chicago's Second City.
14:19In LA, we have the Brownlings.
14:22There's the UCB in New York.
14:24So there's a few kind of theatrical clusters, I would say.
14:29But nothing on the level of Fringe.
14:32And I was so excited to walk through...
14:35I've been a few times.
14:36And just to see young people so engrossed in comedy and debating the merits of various
14:41shows on the way out, it was inspiring.
14:44And it's...
14:45The show is great.
14:47And to finish on and ask a question by May, this is your second feature film after
14:50American Pickle, right?
14:51Yeah.
14:52But I think the...
14:53What's gonna happen here is it's got a January release.
14:55We'll probably be talking about awards buzz.
14:57How does that sit with you in terms of like being involved in conversation for awards
15:02and what's going on?
15:02I haven't really thought about that yet.
15:04But I'm thrilled that the movie exists at all.
15:07There's been quite a few turns in the story, as you know.
15:10So thank you so much.
15:11I appreciate it.
15:14I think...
15:14I mean, I don't...
15:17Obviously, the closest thing to me is I want to protect artists.
15:20And I want to protect human-made art, soul-made art.
15:24And I don't think that that's in danger.
15:27But I do feel like the idea that actors, artists, filmmakers, storytellers are going
15:34to be...
15:35Musicians are going to be under threat by this technology feels very upsetting to me.
15:42And I have a real appreciation for the magic of this technology, particularly through the
15:48eyes of the character that I play.
15:50It's like discovering a whole new universe.
15:52It's like discovering that whatever you imagine, whatever you dream, can be achieved.
15:58That's the way that it's being framed in the narrative of the people who have discovered
16:04this technology.
16:05There is a true magic to it.
16:08And I'm very, very curious to see how others use it.
16:11Of course, you know, curing diseases and all of the really healthy things that I hope
16:15that we...
16:17Obviously, are happening with it.
16:19But obviously, with every great thing that can happen, something terrible can happen.
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