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‘MAY NEGOSYO PERO WALANG PUHUNAN’

House Prosecutor Atty. James Bryan Alih questioned an Office of the Ombudsman witness, Atty. Karen S. Batu about the declared acquisition costs or capital for Vice President Sara Duterte’s businesses during her first term as Davao City mayor. The witness said Duterte’s three SALNs did not show any declared acquisition costs, which led Alih to comment, “May negosyo pero walang puhunan.” Defense counsel Atty. Justin Nicol Gular later questioned Alih’s use of “acquisition cost” as equivalent to “puhunan.” Presiding Officer Chiz Escudero agreed, saying the two terms are not equivalent and noting that they are different. (Video courtesy of Senate of the Philippines)

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00:00So, there is a business, but there is no declaration. Is that right?
00:04That's the one that is in Salen.
00:06Okay. I'll zero in on the 2007 Salen, where those businesses that you've mentioned were already existing.
00:16The question is, Madam Witness, is there a declaration, or sorry, what is the declared acquisition cost or declaration of
00:26these businesses, if there is?
00:31Wala pong din-declare si BP, Sara.
00:33Okay. Salamat po. I'm sorry.
00:35So, meron pong negosyo, pero walang declaradong puhunan. Tama po ba?
00:39Yun po yung nasa Salen.
00:41Alright. Sige po. Let's proceed now to 2010 to 2012.
00:46And for context, Madam Witness, this is the time where the Vice President was elected as City Mayor of Davao
00:54City.
00:54And I think this is her first term as City Mayor of Davao City.
00:58Now, briefly, Madam Witness, kindly go over those documents and tell us what are the business interests or negosyo that
01:11were declared in those three salens during the first term of the Vice President as Mayor of Davao City.
01:28Para po sa 2010 salen ng ating Vice President, naka-declared po yung Davao Emerging Taipan Corporation, Davao Bounty Times
01:37Food Corporation, City Hall King Chow Foods Corporation, SGT Fortune Horse Corporation, at CYKT Incorporated.
01:47Para po sa 2011, Davao Emerging Taipan Corporation, Davao Emerging Taipan Corporation, Davao Bounty Times Food Corporation, City Hall King
01:57Chow Foods Corporation, SGT Fortune Horse Corporation, CYKT Incorporated, at ang Celta Matiem Salon.
02:06Celta Matiem Salon. Okay. Proceed for 2012.
02:09For 2012 po, ito po yung Davao Emerging Taipan Corporation, Davao Bounty Times Food Corporation, City Hall King Chow Foods
02:18Corporation, SGT Fortune Horse Corporation, CYKT Incorporated, 3Kids Incorporated, at Celta Matiem Salon.
02:28Okay. Salamat po. But just to be fair to the Vice President, doon po sa 2011, may nabanggit kayong nadagdag
02:35na Martiem Salon.
02:39Who owns this, Madam Witness, if you know?
02:42Incompetent, Your Honor.
02:43It's stated in the document, Your Honor.
02:44If you know, it's counsel.
02:46Attorney Batu, you may answer if you know.
02:49Ang nakalagay po dito sa salen, ang pangalan po ay Manassas R. Carpio.
02:54Okay. So, just to be fair to the Vice President, yung Salon, hindi naman kay Vice President, kay Atty. Carpio
02:59yung Salon na yun.
03:00Nakalagay po dito, sole proprietor po.
03:03Okay. Thank you.
03:05Sige. Doon naman sa salen, sa nabanggit nyo, ano naman po yung shares of stocks, kung meron man, na dineklara
03:14ng Vice President in relation to those properties or business interests?
03:35For the record, Your Honor, the witness is intentively perusing the documents, Your Honor.
03:56Sa tatlong salens po, wala pong dineklar si BP, Sarah.
04:01At ano naman po yung dineklarang acquisition cost or puhunan?
04:05Nung mga negosyong ito, medyo marami-rami rin na rin po, ano po yung dineklarang puhunan ng Vice President sa
04:12mga negosyo na ito, kung meron man?
04:14Base po dito sa tatlong salens, wala pong naka-declare na acquisition cost.
04:18So, similarly, may negosyo, pero walang puhunan.
04:22Okay.
04:23At base po sa salen, nung 2024 at 2025, ano po yung shares of stocks na dineklara ng ating Vice
04:36President in relation to the companies that you just mentioned?
04:56Based on the 2024 and 2025 salen, wala pong naka-declare na shares of stocks.
05:03Sige po. At magkano po yung puhunan, kung meron man, na dineklara ng ating Vice President para doon sa various
05:10business interests na meron siya?
05:13Before that, Your Honor, with the indulgence of this court.
05:16Yes, Attorney Justin.
05:17We will have to object to these lines of questioning, particularly on the word puhunan, Your Honor, as the council
05:22has been misleading,
05:24as he has been making it seem that puhunan is equivalent to acquisition cost, Your Honor.
05:30We just like to clarify for the record that puhunan is capital, Your Honor, and not capital investment and not
05:36acquisition cost, Your Honor.
05:39Julie noted, and the Chair agrees with the distinction.
05:42Ibang puhunan sa acquisition cost.
05:47And another one, Your Honor.
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