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The First 48 (2004) Season 29 Episode 19
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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:23We have been screaming justice for Rob Cobain.
00:28Screaming it. I'm screaming it. Justice.
00:32He was an artist. He worked, supported his kids.
00:36No criminal history whatsoever.
00:39And he's found shot and killed in his own apartment
00:41for no reason that we have been able to find.
00:45It's not just a homicide case anymore.
00:48I take it personal that this is sitting unsolved on my name.
00:54Detective Schaefer, he was passionate about this case.
00:57But he got promoted to put back on the road.
01:00So I'm going to pick up where he left off.
01:05He was the people of life.
01:07No matter where you saw him, he was smiling.
01:09He was always encouraging.
01:11And his biggest thing was unity.
01:14He loved music and he loved his kids.
01:17That was his life.
01:18He was a fan of all music.
01:21Kurt Cobain, that was one of his idols.
01:24And he took that moniker and thus Rob Cobain was born.
01:29He was just a phenomenal artist.
01:31But as a father and an artist, this story got cut short.
01:36He definitely did not deserve this.
01:39We're all just so heartbroken.
01:41I must be captain of the planet.
01:43I feel the earth's pain.
01:45My little heart is damaged.
01:46Heartbroken, heartbroken.
01:49I'm heartbroken, heartbroken.
01:51Woo!
02:10In North Charleston's Forest Hills neighborhood,
02:12the property manager of an apartment complex calls 9-1-1.
02:199-1-1, what's the address of the emergency?
02:22Lowell Drive.
02:23Somebody reported that the sliding door was shattered
02:27and I'm right outside of this window or the door
02:31and I can see someone's inside sitting up on the couch.
02:36His head looks back and there's blood holding the place.
02:40Okay, I'm getting help on the way.
02:51Is that your apartment?
02:53No, I'm the apartment.
02:54Do we know whose apartment that is?
02:56No, I believe it's the person that's in the apartment.
03:021-15 dispatches, appears to be a shooting.
03:05I'm clearing the apartment.
03:07North Charleston Police Department!
03:14AEM, ma'am, you guys are clear.
03:18Chief for your friend to despite no siren or october of your mile.
03:21Check on him!
03:23I got a pulse.
03:25Sorry.
03:27Okay, 115 dispatch, it's gonna be confirmed, 10-7.
03:30All right, copy.
03:32Detectives are en route.
03:44230, 239.
03:45All right.
03:46232.
03:47Detectives are in route.
04:01This Mexican neighbor at 5 a.m. heard two bangs, two loud bangs.
04:07She thought it was a car accident or whatever.
04:09Around 10-ish, she noticed the glass was shattered,
04:12and then at that point, she called for the maintenance.
04:16When the maintenance man spotted the victim,
04:18he contacted the property manager, who called 911.
04:22Robert Brown?
04:23That's what the male on the floor in there says.
04:25That looks like.
04:3140-year-old Robert Brown III, known by his stage name, Rob Cobain,
04:36was a local hip-hop artist who also worked at a jewelry store.
04:41Recently divorced, he had a 9-year-old son with his ex-wife
04:44and a 13-year-old daughter from a previous relationship.
04:53The front door was locked when I got here, dead bolting.
04:56I made entry through this hole right here.
04:58If the wares were open on the side,
04:59that was like that when we got here.
05:05The glass is broken.
05:08Let me see.
05:09A little bit later.
05:11Check his body.
05:12Yeah.
05:13Yeah.
05:15Rob was shot four times.
05:17In the back, legs, and ankle.
05:22He's in his underwear.
05:26Was this a PS4?
05:29They were maybe playing the game.
05:33Oh, there you go, right there.
05:35So, one shell casing.
05:37The team finds a shell casing on the living room floor.
05:42There's everyone back here, too.
05:45Another one behind the couch.
05:47And one in the front hallway.
05:56Whoever it was, he was very close when they started shooting him.
06:00There's blood all over there.
06:02There clearly was a scuffle at the door.
06:04Guesses that him and someone else were fighting,
06:07and that's when the shots started going off.
06:09Maybe he's trying to flee.
06:11Could have been shooting at him and put one through the glass.
06:14And then, from there, he had collapsed right in front of the couch.
06:20There's a bag of weed.
06:24His phone is in his back bedroom.
06:29The original responding officer said he noticed that the front door was bolt locked.
06:34The window was open.
06:35I'm thinking that's how they went in.
06:37Could be.
06:38Not impossible.
06:40There's a possibility this was just a random burglary gone wrong.
06:45My personal opinion, somebody else was let in the house.
06:49Maybe a possible girlfriend involved or something,
06:52because he's in his underwear in there.
06:56And I don't think he would have been, like, hanging out with one of his buddies
06:59or another dude in there, like, half-naked or whatever.
07:03Right now, we have to canvas for video.
07:06Hopefully get lucky, because right now we don't have a lot to go off of.
07:11It's gonna be a tough one.
07:19Can I ask you a question real quick?
07:21Did you hear anything earlier this morning?
07:22Any shouting, arguing, or anything like that?
07:25Okay.
07:25All right.
07:25Well, I appreciate you guys.
07:29Has anybody already talked to you?
07:32Okay.
07:36Everybody must be at work.
07:41Then...
07:41Okay.
07:44One of Rob's neighbors comes forward.
07:46His ex-wife know that they just got recently divorced.
07:50He has two kids from Germany, and then he has an autistic son.
07:54Okay.
07:55Did they live there?
07:57Sometimes.
07:58Rob's car was broken down,
08:00so his daughter has been staying with his ex-wife
08:02so she could get a ride to school.
08:05And you don't know him to have any drama or beef with anybody like that?
08:08Mm-mm.
08:09He did live with these two individuals.
08:11They live in his daughter's room.
08:13What did those two people name that he would live with before?
08:16Half-naked before.
08:18But it's a girl and then a man.
08:20Black, both black.
08:21Okay.
08:21He did kick him out.
08:24When was that that he kicked him out?
08:26Two and a half months ago.
08:28Okay.
08:38Two hours in.
08:39A neighbor next door made a call to her, so she came over here to give us a little bit
08:45more information.
08:46Okay.
08:47Another friend of Rob's arrives on scene.
08:49Okay.
08:50I'm Detective Schaefer.
08:51My name is Nisha Harris.
08:53So what's your relationship to Robert?
08:56We're friends.
08:57Okay.
08:58Has there been any drama recently in the house over there?
09:01Like arguments between people, fights, anything like that?
09:04No, that's why we were trying to figure out because he honestly, he's not that type of person.
09:08Right.
09:08I'm his really happy-go-lucky guy.
09:11So.
09:12How's the relationship with the ex-wife?
09:13Is everything good?
09:14Yeah, they're fine.
09:15They recently just signed their papers.
09:17Okay.
09:18But it wasn't a heated divorce.
09:19It wasn't bad.
09:20Do you know him to be involved in anything bad like drug dealing or anything like that?
09:24Narcotics?
09:25Anything to that extent?
09:26No.
09:27He smoked a little weed.
09:28Okay.
09:31What about friend-wise?
09:32Who else would Rob hang out with?
09:34He was a ladies man.
09:35He hung out with different girls.
09:38He just had been going through some things, you know?
09:41Going through a new divorce.
09:42Yeah.
09:43Trying to figure it out.
09:44This summer, he allowed people to live with him.
09:48She gives to Schaefer the names of Rob's former roommates.
09:51Did everything work out when they got moved out or was it like a bad move out?
09:55It wasn't that good.
09:57It wasn't that good?
09:57No.
09:58Okay.
10:01This is wild.
10:02No.
10:03I know it's a lot for everybody.
10:05Thank you, man.
10:15As word of Rob's murder continues to spread...
10:18You work here?
10:19He's my watchmaker.
10:20He fixed his watches for me.
10:23The manager of the jewelry store where he worked shows up on scene.
10:28What's the last time he's talking to you?
10:29I talked to Rob last night.
10:31Around 6 o'clock.
10:33In the parking lot.
10:34He was sitting in the closet.
10:36She says, last night, a woman picked Rob up from work.
10:41I don't know her.
10:43I don't know her.
10:43I don't know her.
10:44What kind of car are they left in?
10:46I don't know.
10:47I don't know her.
10:48I don't know her.
10:50I don't know her.
10:50So he left last night from work for the girl.
10:55But that's the last time she saw him.
10:59Then, another possible break, Rob's neighbors remember that he has a security camera in
11:08his living room.
11:09Okay.
11:10Let me go check that out.
11:11Give me one second.
11:17That ring camera was on during the whole incident and just recording things, which would tell
11:22us exactly what happened and who did it.
11:24That would be huge.
11:35The camera's on because he's getting ring notifications on his phone.
11:40So we have high hopes for that.
11:48We're hoping it's been on since this morning, which means that it just would have been activating
11:52for whatever happened in time.
12:04My name is George Robert Vantine Jr.
12:07I have been with the North Charleston Police Department for 23 years.
12:13I spent just shy of five years in the person's unit working violent crime and homicides.
12:20I'm honored with working in cold cases now.
12:23The department set up this unit to help bring justice to the victims and the families where
12:28the case agent has moved on.
12:30They've either been transferred out or they retired and the case still isn't solved.
12:36Detective Schaefer is transferred back to the road.
12:39So we're going to continue looking into Lowell Drive and pick up where he left off.
12:44Looks like a report.
12:46When Schaefer left the crime scene that night, his head was spinning.
12:52Probably had half a dozen potential motives.
12:56It could be a burglary gone bad because there is a window partially opened.
13:03There's been indication that he is a ladies' man.
13:06He's in his underwear.
13:08So it could be something with a lover's quarrel.
13:11The ex-roommate may have been involved.
13:14There was some type of argument.
13:17And then there is a female that picked him up from work and was the last person to see him.
13:24Once Schaefer goes home, the evening shift starts running with it.
13:28Trying to get into the victim's phone.
13:31Maybe there's some indication of who that female that picked him up from work may be.
13:44Seven hours in.
13:46Sam's got something.
13:48Mm-hmm.
13:49Digital forensics examiner Sam Riedel was downloading Rob's phone.
13:53Your cell phone is very different.
13:55I understand.
13:56Yeah.
13:58And found a text conversation between Rob and the woman who picked him up from work last night.
14:03Amanda, who picked him up?
14:05Get her in here, see what she knows.
14:18Two hours later.
14:20Thank you for coming in today.
14:23Amanda agrees to talk.
14:25So how did you hear about what happened to Robert?
14:29I actually was, I looked on the news and I saw the shooting and I was like, oh .
14:36I sent my husband over there after he cut off work.
14:39Okay.
14:40All right, so you saw him yesterday, correct?
14:43Yeah.
14:43I picked him up from work yesterday.
14:45It was about 10 till 6 and we went to the Publix to get a sandwich.
14:57And once you guys were there, what happened?
15:00Oh, we smoked for a little bit and we watched you on TV raps and we ate our sandwich and
15:08we smoked some more.
15:10I don't know why her husband would think it would be cool if she goes to some other dude's house
15:15and smokes weed with him.
15:16And is he like jealous of their relationship?
15:18You know, it's weird.
15:22And I took off at 9.30.
15:24He walked me outside.
15:27We didn't spend too much time outside because it was cold.
15:31He said, I love you.
15:34The last that I heard from him was last night when I told him I'm home and he responded to
15:39a little hard thing.
15:40And roughly how long is the drive?
15:41About an hour.
15:43Okay.
15:44And did he mention having any plans afterwards?
15:48No, I think he was going to go to bed.
15:51He had to work today.
15:53How did the two of you meet and how long have you known him?
15:56Since April of 2016 in Northwoods Mall.
16:00She says she and Rob have been friends for eight years.
16:04We had a conversation about Prince, the singer, and we've just been friends ever since.
16:17Have you and Rob ever had like a sexual relationship?
16:22So it's just friends.
16:24Okay.
16:26Is he, um, he's pretty cool with your husband?
16:28Oh yeah, absolutely.
16:36What was Rob wearing when you saw him last night?
16:40Um, I think it was a black long sleeve, just shirt that he had on.
16:47Jeans.
17:06And do you know what his relationship was like with the guy that used to live with him?
17:12No, but he was there for quite a while with his girlfriend.
17:16So what happened?
17:18I don't know.
17:19Honestly, Rob just referred to them as house guests and I didn't ask too many questions.
17:24The only thing that Rob seemed to be stressed out about is his neighbor smelling the weed.
17:32And we did talk about that because he had his, uh, he propped his sliding glass door open a little
17:37bit.
17:38So it would air out.
17:39Do you know if Rob kept that door open after you left?
17:42Probably.
17:43It made me nervous because he didn't lock things, that being one of them.
17:48Mm-hmm.
17:50You tell me that this isn't true, right?
17:54I'm sorry for your loss.
17:59One more second.
18:07It does sound like her and the victim had a good friendship.
18:12She says that her husband was cool with it.
18:15Um, we do plan on following up with the husband just to make sure that there wasn't any type
18:20of jealousy on his end.
18:23Yeah.
18:30From glancing at this, Schaefer did talk to Amanda's husband.
18:34And it seemed like he was okay with his wife going over there, that he knew the victim
18:40and he didn't have any issues with him.
18:43He did not feel the husband was involved.
18:45So after the shift ended, they were no closer to a motive behind this.
18:51According to witnesses, Rob was a ladies' man.
18:55So Schaefer's plan was to track down the women he was seeing and track down the couple
18:59that used to live with the victim.
19:02And he also wanted access to the footage on the phone, a ring camera that was inside
19:08the victim's home that may have the possible suspect, which would have been huge.
19:26The next morning, Detective Parker Bush and Schaefer head out to try to find some of the women
19:32that Rob had been seeing.
19:35Could still be a chick, sleeping around with different women.
19:37Some chick could not like it.
19:39Well, that and then one of their significant other friends.
19:43Yeah.
19:43And shows up there at the door going, hey, can I talk to you?
19:47And things go south.
19:48Yep.
19:54Hey, sir, how are you?
19:57The team gets a tip from Robert Brown's female ex-roommate.
20:10She says she suspects her ex-boyfriend, who was Rob's other ex-roommate, maybe the killer.
20:19Okay.
20:20All right.
20:21Well, I appreciate it.
20:22No problem.
20:23All right.
20:23Take it easy.
20:38See what this chick has to say.
20:50Hey, how are you?
20:51Who?
20:52What happened?
20:54I was introduced to Rob in July of this year.
20:57Me and my boyfriend were homeless together and we stayed at his apartment.
21:01They knew each other from being rappers.
21:03Okay.
21:04Um, while we were there.
21:07She says while they were living with Rob, she and her boyfriend weren't getting along.
21:12How did it end with y'all and Rob and staying at his apartment?
21:18Rob texted me and said, hey y'all, Journey will be back.
21:23Rob asked them to leave because his daughter was coming back to live with him.
21:27I left him.
21:28And shortly after they moved out, she and her boyfriend broke up.
21:33What makes you think he was be the one involved?
21:35Was there bad things between him and Rob when they were living there or?
21:38We were homeless.
21:39At the point that I left him, he had nowhere else to go.
21:41So, I'm assuming he did go to Rob's house at some point.
21:45I can't confirm that.
21:47Okay.
21:48My woman's intuition is telling me if he didn't do this, he knows who did it.
21:53Right, right, okay.
21:55What my intuition is telling me.
21:57Okay.
21:58He's been contacting me off of crazy different numbers.
22:02The first number was 472.
22:09Okay.
22:10We're going to continue investigating and go from there.
22:13We have to go based off where the evidence takes us.
22:15I know you said your intuition, but...
22:17I know.
22:17I know.
22:18Yeah.
22:20Rob did not deserve that.
22:22He was a sweet guy.
22:24He did not deserve that.
22:25No.
22:26100%.
22:28Thank you for your time, ma'am.
22:39It was basically woman's intuition that the ex-roommate may have been involved.
22:44But Detective Schaefer did a search warrant on the ex-roommate's phone.
22:50And during the timeframe of the murder, that person's device was in Florence, South Carolina.
22:57And I believe Schaefer spoke to that person on the phone.
22:59He was very cooperative.
23:01So I think he ruled him out.
23:06Detective Schaefer, in his notes and what he told me, seems like everyone he talked to,
23:11whether it be girlfriends, anybody, spoke very highly of the victim.
23:15And he got the sense that no one in the victim's social circle wanted to harm the victim.
23:22And everyone was baffled as to who would do this.
23:28Oh, my God.
23:28Schaefer hit a dead end.
23:30And so they had the Hail Mary of the ring camera that was inside the victim's home.
23:35That would potentially give us some glimpse of who did it.
23:47As the first 48 slips away.
23:50Camera covers the living room.
23:53Schaefer gets an update on the security camera in Rob's living room.
23:57But the ring camera that was in there, the plan is unactive.
24:02Which means it'll give you notifications and alerts, but it doesn't record any of it.
24:08It's live view only.
24:12So there's no video of the actual shooting?
24:14Nope.
24:16Oh.
24:17Can't get frickin' lucky on none of it.
24:19Hmm.
24:20Back square one on that.
24:22Felt too good to be true.
24:26So, yeah, things are going well.
24:27Everything's coming together nicely.
24:29And I mean that with the most sarcastic possible.
24:45Six days later.
24:47Number one, I'm so sorry.
24:49This is the worst way to meet someone, like I said, in such a situation.
24:53Schaefer speaks to Rob's mother.
24:55He didn't deserve what he got because the type of person that he was.
25:01Before I leave South Carolina, I need to go home with some kind of closure.
25:07Yes.
25:07Not just leaving my child.
25:09I want to help and tell you as much as I can, but it is ongoing, so there's a lot
25:13I can't tell you right now.
25:15What I can tell you is this, there's two possibilities.
25:17It was either a random burglary gone wrong or it was someone he knew.
25:22Are you aware that he had been broken in before?
25:27When was that?
25:29Maybe like a couple of weeks ago.
25:32Do you believe that date?
25:33I don't.
25:34Okay.
25:36Hello.
25:37How are you?
25:39I'm just in Chicago.
25:40The team turns to Rob's ex-wife and daughter.
25:44What's your name?
25:46And what's your name?
25:47Are you?
25:48In your family.
25:49Hmm?
25:50Did your dad ever mention that his house got broken into previously?
25:55Mm-hmm.
25:57So tell me about that.
25:59He told me how he took his, like, his pocket money because he could keep, like, $50 in his pocket.
26:04And he'd set it, like, on the TV stand.
26:08Okay.
26:09And did he tell you how he thought the person was able to get inside?
26:14He had to do a room off.
26:17He had to do a room off.
26:27That shit.
26:28Like, what time of day did it happen?
26:31When did he just leave?
26:32So nighttime?
26:34Yeah, like, close to, like, three or four.
26:36Like, early.
26:42Thank you again for coming in.
26:43I'm sorry for y'all's loss.
26:47Give you one second, okay?
26:51He did get his stuff broken into a couple weeks ago.
26:56And then I don't really see.
26:59There's no calls for service over there.
27:01So if he did, he never reported it to us.
27:04That's true.
27:05That's interesting.
27:05We'll have to chase that down, too.
27:07They're just going to keep talking to more and more people.
27:10We're hoping to get a bunch of video from the surrounding streets and the surrounding areas.
27:15Hoping that somebody's camera somewhere caught someone running from the scene that we could track
27:19or someone jumping in a car right afterwards.
27:22Yeah.
27:23We just need to get something.
27:35Four days later.
27:37That food line has left the parking lot.
27:39The team watches surveillance video from the grocery store next to Rob's apartment complex.
27:45The victim's building is right here.
27:48Okay.
27:49And right there is, like, right by where the window's at.
27:52We need, like, some video of somebody running from the scene or some .
27:56Otherwise, it's like a .
27:58So far, not a lot of luck.
28:06Then...
28:07Oh, my God.
28:09Where the green thing is at, a thermal image of somebody coming around from the backside of the victim's building
28:15at 4.15 in the morning, right before the shooting.
28:19We think the murder time is around, like, 5 a.m.
28:23But this is about 55 minutes before that.
28:25This figure is just wandering around.
28:31Very suspicious to me, because he's not going into an apartment.
28:34He's not walking a dog.
28:38He's just wandering around behind buildings in the middle of the night.
28:41I think the temperature that night was, like, 40 degrees or less.
28:45So it was cold as hell out.
28:46And you're wandering around at 4 o'clock in the morning.
28:50So my curiosity is, why are you doing this?
28:55They're looking to break into somewhere.
28:58That's what I was kind of getting a feel for.
29:00Like, are they looking for open windows and ?
29:02The homicide, he did have his window left open.
29:05And his mother said that he did get broken into a couple weeks ago.
29:29And then, this video we're getting is from right about here.
29:33Shaffer pulls up doorbell footage they got from a neighbor down the street from Rob's apartment.
29:40This is at 5.12 a.m., minutes after we believe the homicide occurred,
29:45of an individual walking down the street.
29:53Lowell Drive, which is where the homicide occurred.
29:56This could potentially be the same person from the video walking behind the apartment building.
30:03This guy is a potential suspect.
30:08I wish we had a post-smart shoot up at him.
30:11But he's our best lead so far, as you could say.
30:18It's possible that it was a burglar gone wrong.
30:21Just laying down, someone was trying to break in.
30:23Yep.
30:30Three weeks later.
30:32Hey, Kaysen.
30:33Yes, sir.
30:34Detectives Kaysen Alex and Carlos Ochoaia are working a case that they believe could be connected to Rob's.
30:42So, I have a rash of burglaries in the Forest Hills area, and that's the same area where the homicide
30:49was.
30:50The most recent burglary occurred around 10 o'clock last night.
30:55He went into the window of their house while everybody was inside the house and just stole all their stuff.
31:01The M.O. is that the same for this kid?
31:03I dealt with him before, where he likes to break into people's houses while people are home.
31:08Alex realized the M.O. of last night's robbery matched that of a juvenile burglar that he arrested three months
31:14ago.
31:15He's a 15-year-old, unlocked doors and windows. That's where he goes to.
31:20The case I arrested him for back in September, he broke in the house.
31:24One of the roommates came home, confronted him, and he pulled a gun out on them.
31:28When me and other detectives wanted to go pick him up, he tried to pull a gun out on us.
31:31But we were able to stop him before he was able to do it.
31:34Charges against the juvenile for the burglary three months ago were dismissed.
31:39So, he may be connected into the homicide because the M.O. is just the same.
31:51The juvenile suspect was definitely on the street at the time Rob's murder happened.
31:59So, did she see the guy who broke it?
32:02No.
32:02The victim of last night's burglary was in her bedroom when it happened.
32:29The burglary victim recognized one of the suspects in the video from the neighborhood.
32:34He's the same juvenile that Detective Alex arrested for the previous burglary.
32:40So, we think this may be our suspect from the homicide.
32:44It's possible.
32:46The fact that he was willing to pull a gun out on three officers in uniform,
32:50the fact that he actually did pull a gun out on my other victim and threaten her,
32:55I feel like he could, he could escalate that point.
32:58Especially if he's inside somebody's house breaking in there and they catch him.
33:02I wouldn't be surprised if he would do something like that.
33:06Unfortunately, we don't have enough to arrest him for this burglary.
33:13So, the goal right now is to work on building the burglary case for those two.
33:17We're going to follow up with the victim.
33:18We're going to go out to her house.
33:19We'll start going around the neighborhood canvassing for video.
33:22And then when we can get enough to charge them with the burglary, we can pick them up.
33:26And while they're up here, talk to them about the homicide.
33:33Detective Schaefer, in his notes and what he told me,
33:36he wasn't able to develop enough probable cause or enough evidence
33:41for that one particular burglary to charge him.
33:45And then Schaefer was beginning the process of being promoted out of the unit.
33:50Six months after Schaefer left the unit.
33:53The property detectives, Detective Kaysen,
33:57ended up charging that juvenile suspect with yet another burglary.
34:04When Detective Kaysen went to apprehend that juvenile suspect,
34:09he had a backpack.
34:11Just like the suspect that is on camera walking back towards his residence
34:16minutes after the homicide.
34:19So, that's a strong person of interest.
34:23So, we needed to somehow find some way to convince him to come to City Hall,
34:28to put him in a room, then interview him.
34:4113 months after Rob's murder.
34:45That juvenile suspect just came in today to pick up some items from another case.
34:50So, a phone, his backpack.
34:52So, I'm going to try to interview him and see what he says.
34:55See if we can get him to admit to this.
34:58Hey, how's it going?
35:00I'm Detective Vantine.
35:03So, you're looking to get some items back.
35:04You're talking about like a backpack.
35:06You're talking about a phone.
35:07It's an iPhone 14.
35:09Okay.
35:10Okay.
35:10Apple iPhone was seized.
35:12And then you said you're...
35:13It's a black backpack.
35:15I got you.
35:16Do you always say, how long you had that backpack for?
35:18Uh, like, about a year until.
35:21We had some burglaries in the area.
35:24And I'm wondering if, um...
35:25Hey, I'll show you a picture if you ever hit this place or remember it.
35:35I know where he's at.
35:37Yeah.
35:39December 3rd, early in the morning, 2024.
35:42This place was broken into.
35:47This window's open.
35:48This was shattered.
35:56The thing is, I think you do...
36:01You would go into like different places, right?
36:04And so, I'm asking about this particular one.
36:07Get it off your chest.
36:08What happened?
36:14Let me ask you this.
36:15When you did these break-ins, did you have someone with you?
36:18Yeah.
36:19I always have my room.
36:21I don't steal.
36:22We don't steal.
36:23What do you do?
36:23You just go in and chill.
36:24How do you get in usually, though?
36:26From the bed or the window.
36:29You always go through like a window?
36:32Yeah, but you have me in lock or something like that.
36:36This window's open.
36:38You ever go through this window and chill?
36:49Oh, you know the house this is?
36:53Have you ever gone to a place where somebody lives?
36:56No.
36:56While they're in there?
36:57No.
36:58No.
36:59That's dumb.
37:01Yeah.
37:02Well, not knowing they're in there.
37:04No.
37:05I'm not that slow nor stupid.
37:08When you go into chill in these houses, you usually have a weapon on you?
37:11No.
37:11I don't carry weapons.
37:13I don't have...
37:14You were arrested with guns in the past?
37:16No, it was only because I'm fronding.
37:19And I'm just trying to use it for protection.
37:21Right.
37:22I was just doing it for the fun of it.
37:23For the looks.
37:24Well, I wouldn't do no of it.
37:26Put my right hand on the Bible right now.
37:28I'm on my light.
37:30I don't know nothing about that .
37:33Well, I just came here to get my stuff.
37:36The phone?
37:37Do you know the passcode to that phone?
37:39Yeah.
37:40I have pictures.
37:41He gives Vantine the passcode.
37:43I'm going to be honest with you.
37:44I won't be able to release it today, that's for sure.
37:49Well, I got you.
37:51I feel you.
37:55Yeah, you good?
38:04Just denying, denying.
38:06He mentioned that he did usually go through the windows.
38:09And this is entry through a window unsecured.
38:13But I just don't have enough to say.
38:15I don't have any DNA putting him there.
38:17I don't have any video putting him there.
38:19I got the passcode to his phone so we can do the phone dump.
38:23So maybe there's something in the text message that will either rule him out or rule him in.
38:32The burglary suspect that we just interviewed, we didn't dump his phone.
38:36Unfortunately, there's nothing to prove that he committed this crime.
38:41But he is still a strong person of interest.
38:44As far as the community, maybe somebody knows something or he confided in somebody.
38:49Maybe someone has some crucial information that will help solve it.
38:53I know this suspect commits burglaries with other juveniles.
38:57Maybe they will cooperate.
39:00And they'll be able to come forward.
39:02I think the thing is trying to never give it up and just hoping that something will break.
39:17Unsolved cases are never closed.
39:23I'm going to do everything in my power to figure out who did this.
39:27Rob's life was taken.
39:30And so I feel it's important to let the family know we are still actively trying to solve it.
39:37I remember him.
39:38He was a nice guy to me.
39:39Yeah.
39:40If it's been over a year or two years or three or ten or whatever the case is,
39:46we're never going to give up hope.
39:48We're never going to stop trying.
39:49I'm never going to quit on it.
39:51Never.
40:01He made people laugh just by stepping in the room.
40:05He was just that silly.
40:09Just proud of him, you know.
40:11Never had nothing bad to say about my nephew.
40:14I just can't wrap my mind around why somebody do that to me.
40:20Whoever did it, they took something away from me that could never be replaced.
40:25They took a daddy away from his kids.
40:30It's been a struggle.
40:38With Kingston, he doesn't understand.
40:42So he asked for him, and I can't really explain why he's not there.
40:49With Journey, it's a different type of difficulty because she knows.
40:54She's angry and upset because somebody took something so valuable away from her, from all of us.
41:04And I want to be able to look at the person in their eyes and ask them, why?
41:16Father God, we gather today in honor of Robert, hoping that this will bring justice.
41:24Somebody knows exactly what happened, and I pray that their conscience will allow them to tell somebody so that we'll
41:33know who did it and why.
41:36Put yourself in our shoes.
41:38What if it was your family member, and you know somebody know?
41:42Wouldn't you want them to say it?
41:45It will help a lot.
41:47Please and thank you, whoever you are.
41:49I know you know something.
41:54In loving memories, Robert Linares Brown III.
42:02Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:05Say it loud.
42:06Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:10Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:13Amen.
42:15IâŚ
42:16âŚ
42:21I'm gonna be captain planet.
42:23I feel theipples' pain.
42:24My little habit listen.
42:26Heartbroken.
42:27Heartbroken.
42:28I'm heartbroken.
42:30Heartbroken.
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