Yamaha V4 vs. Inline Four! Will a new engine design save Yamaha in MotoGP?

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Yamaha is a passionate racing company but recent success has eluded the tuning fork folks. Technical Editor Kevin Cameron and Editor-in-Chief Mark Hoyer dig into Yamaha's new V4 MotoGP racer that debuted at Misano and is under continued testing. Will the V4 solve all the company's problems? Will rides love the new engine and bike? What are the advantages and disadvantages of V4s and inline-4s. Listen to find out!  Looking to buy? Get prequalified https://octane.co/flex/1?a=171  Become a Channel Partner: https://octanemedia.co/home/become-an-advertiser/  Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6CLI74xvMBFLDOC1tQaCOQ Read more from Cycle World: https://www.cycleworld.com/ Buy Cycle World Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/cycleworld

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00:00:00This is the Cycle World Podcast. I'm Mark Hoyer. I'm with Kevin Cameron.

00:00:04We're here to talk about the Yamaha V4 MotoGP bike

00:00:07debut. We're going to talk about

00:00:11inline 4s and V4s and flexible chassis.

00:00:18Why we do a V4.

00:00:22Somebody

00:00:22relatively recently did win a championship with an inline 4. V4s are kind of

00:00:27dominant. What are we clutching for here, I guess,

00:00:31is the idea. And why would we try to do this now?

00:00:35And Yamaha is developing this V4

00:00:39for next season, presumably.

00:00:43Whilst in 2027, we would be going to an 850

00:00:47CC displacement limit. Which is a 75

00:00:52millimeter bore limit.

00:00:53So, what

00:00:57are we even doing?

00:00:59So, anyway, I guess we should talk about

00:01:01you want to talk about the

00:01:03debut, Kevin, and just talk

00:01:05about how it did?

00:01:06Well, I want to say a couple of things about

00:01:09why all the fuss.

00:01:12Because

00:01:12here's

00:01:14Fabio Cordero, who

00:01:17is a past

00:01:19time world champion.

00:01:20and since

00:01:22that time

00:01:23he has

00:01:24arrived at the

00:01:27pre-season tests

00:01:28and said,

00:01:29well, we

00:01:30sort of

00:01:31were lacking

00:01:32rear grip.

00:01:34And

00:01:35then the next year

00:01:36they arrive at the

00:01:37pre-season tests

00:01:38and he says,

00:01:39I

00:01:40had hoped that

00:01:41they might have been able to do something

00:01:42about the rear grip

00:01:44and it's

00:01:44kind of holding us back.

00:01:46and

00:01:47he's

00:01:48basically

00:01:49on a life sentence

00:01:51of riding a motorcycle

00:01:52that is

00:01:53lately

00:01:56been

00:01:56in last place.

00:01:59So,

00:01:59I'm sure

00:02:01that people

00:02:02have spoken to him

00:02:03sternly

00:02:04or as they say

00:02:05in Daytona

00:02:06taken him out

00:02:07on the boat

00:02:08about

00:02:11saying things

00:02:12that are critical

00:02:13of the hand

00:02:14that feeds him.

00:02:16Well,

00:02:17that's

00:02:18etiquette.

00:02:20But

00:02:20how does it

00:02:22look for Yamaha

00:02:23to produce a motorcycle

00:02:24that

00:02:25finishes

00:02:26last?

00:02:30That's

00:02:31not a

00:02:32matter that

00:02:33the public

00:02:34relations department

00:02:35would choose

00:02:36to deal with.

00:02:38Now,

00:02:39the supposition

00:02:40is,

00:02:40since everyone

00:02:41else is running

00:02:42a V4,

00:02:43KTM,

00:02:44Ducati,

00:02:45Aprilia

00:02:47and

00:02:48the

00:02:48and

00:02:49Honda,

00:02:51you know,

00:02:53we don't look

00:02:54and say

00:02:55they're all

00:02:56out of step

00:02:56but are Bob.

00:02:59The

00:02:59V4s

00:03:00are

00:03:00getting it

00:03:02done

00:03:03and

00:03:04the one

00:03:05thing we know

00:03:06about the Yamaha

00:03:06that we can

00:03:07see

00:03:08is that

00:03:09it's an

00:03:09inline

00:03:10four.

00:03:12Now,

00:03:13there was a

00:03:14time when

00:03:14the inline

00:03:15four had

00:03:16a definite

00:03:17handicap

00:03:18and that

00:03:19was called

00:03:20piston

00:03:21inertia

00:03:21torque.

00:03:22If you've

00:03:23ever

00:03:23barred,

00:03:24rotated by

00:03:25hand,

00:03:26an inline

00:03:26four,

00:03:27you know

00:03:28that

00:03:28grind,

00:03:30you're pushing

00:03:31the piston,

00:03:31some are going

00:03:32up,

00:03:32some are going

00:03:33down,

00:03:33but when you

00:03:34get so that

00:03:35two are up

00:03:35and two are

00:03:36down,

00:03:36it's real

00:03:37easy and

00:03:39when the

00:03:40engine is

00:03:40running at

00:03:42say 16,000

00:03:44rpm,

00:03:44twice per

00:03:45revolution,

00:03:47all those

00:03:47pistons are

00:03:48stopped

00:03:48and in a

00:03:51quarter of a

00:03:51revolution,

00:03:52which is about

00:03:53a thousandth of a

00:03:53second,

00:03:54they're all going

00:03:55close to 100

00:03:56miles an hour.

00:03:57Now,

00:03:58that exchange

00:03:59of kinetic

00:04:00energy between

00:04:01the pistons

00:04:01and the

00:04:02crankshaft

00:04:03is to a

00:04:05large extent

00:04:06transmitted to

00:04:07the rear

00:04:07tire.

00:04:09And when

00:04:09in desperation,

00:04:11Yamaha went

00:04:12to their

00:04:13one-man

00:04:15tiger team,

00:04:17Masao

00:04:17Furusawa,

00:04:19and said,

00:04:19fix it,

00:04:22fix,

00:04:22fix.

00:04:23And

00:04:24he's a

00:04:26noise,

00:04:27vibration,

00:04:27and harshness

00:04:28guy

00:04:28by training.

00:04:32So,

00:04:33he looked

00:04:33at this

00:04:34and he

00:04:34said,

00:04:34well,

00:04:34let's build

00:04:35a 90-degree

00:04:36engine,

00:04:36which will

00:04:37be like

00:04:38a V4

00:04:40in that

00:04:41half of the

00:04:42pistons,

00:04:43when a

00:04:44piston is

00:04:45stopped,

00:04:45its mate

00:04:46is in

00:04:47mid-stroke

00:04:48and near

00:04:50its maximum

00:04:50speed.

00:04:52And

00:04:52therefore,

00:04:53the pistons

00:04:54are exchanging

00:04:55energy with

00:04:56each other

00:04:56and not

00:04:58with the

00:04:58crankshaft,

00:04:59so there's

00:04:59no yanking

00:05:01going to the

00:05:02back tire.

00:05:03and

00:05:04Mr.

00:05:04Furusawa

00:05:05said,

00:05:05I don't

00:05:06know which

00:05:06it is,

00:05:07whether it

00:05:08actually

00:05:08physically

00:05:09interferes

00:05:10with the

00:05:10rear tire

00:05:11or whether

00:05:12it makes

00:05:13it hard

00:05:13for the

00:05:14rider

00:05:14to sense

00:05:15how much

00:05:16grip there

00:05:16is.

00:05:18Well,

00:05:19they fixed

00:05:20that

00:05:20at the

00:05:22end of

00:05:222003

00:05:23and in

00:05:242004,

00:05:25Valentino

00:05:26Rossi

00:05:26on a

00:05:2790-degree

00:05:28inline

00:05:29bike

00:05:29won

00:05:30the

00:05:30world

00:05:30championship.

00:05:32The

00:05:32cross-plane.

00:05:33Yes,

00:05:33the so-called

00:05:34cross-plane

00:05:35crankshaft.

00:05:37So,

00:05:37that was a

00:05:39definite

00:05:39handicap of

00:05:40the inline

00:05:41four versus

00:05:42the V4

00:05:43and they

00:05:43fixed that.

00:05:45So,

00:05:46now the

00:05:47question is,

00:05:49we'd really

00:05:52like it if

00:05:53a Yamaha

00:05:54representative

00:05:54would say,

00:05:56may I have

00:05:57the microphone

00:05:57please?

00:05:58and said,

00:05:59here is

00:06:00where our

00:06:01problem lies

00:06:02and we're

00:06:03fixing it.

00:06:05See you

00:06:06next week.

00:06:08But

00:06:09evidently,

00:06:10it isn't

00:06:10that simple.

00:06:12And

00:06:13while

00:06:15Corderaro

00:06:16himself,

00:06:17after riding

00:06:17the V4

00:06:18at the

00:06:19Monday test

00:06:20after

00:06:21Misano

00:06:21last weekend,

00:06:23said,

00:06:24it has the

00:06:25same problems

00:06:26as the

00:06:26inline.

00:06:26now Yamaha's

00:06:30PR voice

00:06:32is saying,

00:06:33all the

00:06:33riders agree

00:06:34that it's

00:06:36a step

00:06:36forward.

00:06:40So,

00:06:41we know

00:06:43that the

00:06:44nail that

00:06:45sticks up

00:06:46gets hammered

00:06:47down.

00:06:48So,

00:06:49we hope

00:06:50that Mr.

00:06:51Corderaro

00:06:52will tread

00:06:54carefully.

00:06:55But

00:06:55this kind

00:06:58of thing

00:06:59happens

00:06:59constantly

00:07:00in racing.

00:07:01Back in

00:07:02the 1930s,

00:07:03Mercedes

00:07:03and

00:07:04Auto

00:07:05Union

00:07:05were

00:07:06tremendous

00:07:07rivals.

00:07:07and

00:07:09they

00:07:10were

00:07:10spending

00:07:10money

00:07:11hand

00:07:11over

00:07:11fist.

00:07:13And

00:07:13each

00:07:13one

00:07:14wondered,

00:07:14hmm,

00:07:15does

00:07:16the

00:07:16other

00:07:16guy

00:07:17have

00:07:17an

00:07:17advantage

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00:07:18type

00:07:18of

00:07:18engine

00:07:19they're

00:07:19building?

00:07:20We'd

00:07:20better

00:07:20build

00:07:20one

00:07:21and

00:07:21test

00:07:21it.

00:07:23And

00:07:23out of

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00:07:23other

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00:07:24of

00:07:24their

00:07:24mouth

00:07:24they're

00:07:24saying,

00:07:25and

00:07:25the

00:07:25test

00:07:25had

00:07:26better

00:07:26come

00:07:26out

00:07:26saying

00:07:27that

00:07:27we've

00:07:27done

00:07:28it

00:07:28right

00:07:28all

00:07:28along,

00:07:29which

00:07:29means

00:07:30the

00:07:30test

00:07:30has

00:07:30no

00:07:31value.

00:07:32Honda

00:07:33and

00:07:33Yamaha

00:07:34were

00:07:34locked

00:07:34in

00:07:35battle

00:07:35in

00:07:36500

00:07:37GP.

00:07:39Yamaha

00:07:39were

00:07:39using

00:07:40two

00:07:41contra

00:07:42rotating

00:07:42crankshafts

00:07:44in

00:07:44their

00:07:44V4.

00:07:45Honda

00:07:45was

00:07:46using

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00:07:46single

00:07:47crankshaft.

00:07:48Each

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00:07:52you know,

00:07:52I don't

00:07:52know

00:07:53this,

00:07:54but

00:07:54people

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00:07:57yes,

00:07:58we call

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00:07:58pundits,

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00:08:00street.

00:08:01They

00:08:02have

00:08:02said

00:08:02that

00:08:03each

00:08:03company

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00:08:05example

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00:08:06company's

00:08:07engine

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00:08:07tested

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00:08:08make

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00:08:09they

00:08:10hadn't

00:08:10overlooked

00:08:11something

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00:08:13value.

00:08:14So

00:08:14we

00:08:16don't

00:08:16know

00:08:16that

00:08:17there's

00:08:17a

00:08:17problem

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00:08:20than

00:08:20that

00:08:21there

00:08:22has

00:08:22been

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00:08:23dreadful

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00:08:27years,

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00:08:30that

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00:08:31Yamaha

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00:08:32lacking

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00:08:33rear

00:08:33grip.

00:08:34It

00:08:34goes

00:08:35well

00:08:35when

00:08:35there's

00:08:36good

00:08:37grip

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00:08:37track.

00:08:41But

00:08:42quarter

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00:08:44just

00:08:45looks

00:08:46like,

00:08:47you know,

00:08:48I don't

00:08:48know how

00:08:48many years

00:08:49I have

00:08:49left to

00:08:50serve,

00:08:50but I

00:08:51sort of

00:08:51resigned

00:08:52myself to

00:08:53this.

00:08:53Pay

00:08:54is good.

00:08:54when I

00:08:58get out

00:08:59of this

00:08:59place,

00:09:00I could

00:09:00buy

00:09:00myself

00:09:01a

00:09:01motorcycle

00:09:01and have

00:09:02some

00:09:02fun.

00:09:03So

00:09:04this is

00:09:06a

00:09:07problem

00:09:08for us.

00:09:08So I

00:09:09thought to

00:09:10myself,

00:09:10well,

00:09:11why don't

00:09:11I go

00:09:12through

00:09:13some of

00:09:15the

00:09:15differences

00:09:16between

00:09:16the

00:09:17inline

00:09:18and the

00:09:19V4?

00:09:21Not

00:09:21because I

00:09:22think we're

00:09:22going to

00:09:23find the

00:09:23answer

00:09:23there,

00:09:24because

00:09:24plenty of

00:09:26people have

00:09:26talked about

00:09:27it before

00:09:27now,

00:09:28but just

00:09:29for review.

00:09:32And

00:09:32the first

00:09:34thing is

00:09:34weight

00:09:35placement.

00:09:36And in

00:09:36the early

00:09:37days of

00:09:37the inline,

00:09:39Yamaha had

00:09:40the cylinders

00:09:41and exhaust

00:09:42pipes right

00:09:42up against

00:09:43the front

00:09:43tire.

00:09:44And even

00:09:44before that,

00:09:46in 500

00:09:46GP,

00:09:47people were

00:09:48trying to

00:09:49put the

00:09:49engine as

00:09:50far forward

00:09:51as they

00:09:51could to

00:09:52the point

00:09:52of cutting

00:09:53slots in

00:09:53the radiator

00:09:54for the

00:09:55engine parts

00:09:57on one

00:09:57side or

00:09:58for the

00:09:58tire on

00:09:59the other

00:09:59side.

00:10:02Now

00:10:02people are

00:10:03saying,

00:10:03well,

00:10:04geez,

00:10:05you know,

00:10:05the V4

00:10:07has more

00:10:07weight to

00:10:08the rear

00:10:08because like

00:10:09the rear

00:10:10cylinders are

00:10:10above the

00:10:11gearbox,

00:10:12whereas on

00:10:12the Yamaha,

00:10:14all the

00:10:14cylinders are

00:10:15as far

00:10:16forward as

00:10:16they can

00:10:17go.

00:10:20But why

00:10:22do they

00:10:22put the

00:10:22cylinders,

00:10:23why do

00:10:23they put

00:10:23mass forward?

00:10:24So that the

00:10:25front wheel

00:10:26doesn't come

00:10:27up as

00:10:27easily and

00:10:28the rider

00:10:28can therefore

00:10:29accelerate

00:10:30harder.

00:10:31We've all

00:10:32seen riders

00:10:32pull themselves

00:10:33forward on

00:10:34the bike to

00:10:36accelerate because

00:10:38they need to

00:10:39put as much

00:10:40weight on the

00:10:41front wheel as

00:10:41possible so that

00:10:42it doesn't

00:10:43lift.

00:10:44and oh,

00:10:45where did

00:10:45my steering

00:10:46go?

00:10:48So there's

00:10:50a long

00:10:50history of

00:10:51forward weight

00:10:51placement.

00:10:54And this

00:10:56was why,

00:10:58well,

00:10:59with the

00:11:00V4,

00:11:00it's not

00:11:04possible to

00:11:05have the

00:11:05weight of

00:11:06those rear

00:11:07facing cylinders

00:11:08as far

00:11:09forward as

00:11:10the front

00:11:11row.

00:11:12So this

00:11:14does something

00:11:15for the

00:11:16front rear

00:11:16weight distribution

00:11:17or have they

00:11:18moved other

00:11:18components to

00:11:20compensate for

00:11:20it?

00:11:21You can

00:11:22talk about

00:11:22centralizing of

00:11:23the mass.

00:11:24I mean,

00:11:24you're going

00:11:24to put

00:11:24those.

00:11:25Oh,

00:11:25that's another

00:11:26one that

00:11:26the Honda

00:11:28people have

00:11:29talked about

00:11:29this since

00:11:31the days of

00:11:31Red Page

00:11:32so long

00:11:33ago,

00:11:35that the

00:11:37Yamaha engine

00:11:38is more like

00:11:39a 24-pound

00:11:40ladder and

00:11:41the V4 is

00:11:42more like a

00:11:4324-pound

00:11:43cannonball.

00:11:45If you're

00:11:45going to

00:11:46suddenly reverse

00:11:47direction,

00:11:48the cannonball

00:11:49is not going

00:11:49to oppose you

00:11:50very strongly

00:11:51because its

00:11:52mass is

00:11:52located close

00:11:54to its

00:11:54center.

00:11:54So you

00:11:54just pivot

00:11:56around.

00:11:57Whereas the

00:11:5728 or 10

00:11:59foot long

00:12:0024-pound

00:12:01ladder,

00:12:01it's some

00:12:04effort required.

00:12:06Well,

00:12:07is it a

00:12:08significant

00:12:08effort?

00:12:11Who can

00:12:12say?

00:12:14Honda,

00:12:14Yamaha,

00:12:15they could

00:12:15say.

00:12:16They've

00:12:16got...

00:12:16Yes, and

00:12:17Eric Buell

00:12:18could say.

00:12:19Eric Buell,

00:12:20yes,

00:12:20indeed.

00:12:21Well, he

00:12:22was a huge

00:12:22proponent of

00:12:23that weight

00:12:24on the

00:12:24front wheel

00:12:25and talking

00:12:25to engineers

00:12:26who had

00:12:27been at

00:12:27Buell.

00:12:28That was

00:12:28their big...

00:12:31Getting that

00:12:32weight on the

00:12:33front wheel,

00:12:33they say,

00:12:34is what allowed

00:12:35them to use

00:12:35that extreme

00:12:36front-end

00:12:36geometry

00:12:37without having

00:12:38head-shaking

00:12:39death machines.

00:12:40And stability,

00:12:41sure, because

00:12:42the stability

00:12:43of a motorcycle

00:12:43depends on the

00:12:44damping that

00:12:45comes from

00:12:45its rubbery

00:12:46tires.

00:12:48And if

00:12:48you take

00:12:49the weight

00:12:49off of

00:12:50one of

00:12:50those tires,

00:12:51the tire

00:12:52may become

00:12:53wayward.

00:12:54I'm always

00:12:55thinking about

00:12:55this when I'm

00:12:56pushing a

00:12:56shopping cart

00:12:57because if the

00:12:58cart is

00:12:58twisted slightly

00:12:59and one of

00:13:00the front

00:13:00wheels is a

00:13:01little light,

00:13:03it just

00:13:03starts to

00:13:04and give

00:13:06you a

00:13:06headache.

00:13:06But I

00:13:11want to

00:13:11call

00:13:11attention

00:13:12to

00:13:12something

00:13:12else.

00:13:13And that

00:13:14is that

00:13:15in the

00:13:15departed

00:13:16era of

00:13:17500cc

00:13:18Grand Prix,

00:13:19when the

00:13:20rider tucked

00:13:21in, his

00:13:23chin went

00:13:23into a

00:13:24depression in

00:13:24the fuel

00:13:25tank and

00:13:26his eyes,

00:13:27if he looked

00:13:27down, were

00:13:28looking at

00:13:29the fuel

00:13:29tank.

00:13:31Today, they've

00:13:32moved the

00:13:32rider so far

00:13:33forward that

00:13:34the tank has

00:13:35had to become

00:13:35a mushroom

00:13:36they've pushed

00:13:37it from the

00:13:38rear and

00:13:38it's

00:13:39bulged out

00:13:40at the

00:13:40sides.

00:13:42And now

00:13:43if the

00:13:43rider tucks

00:13:44in, he's

00:13:45looking at

00:13:46the upper

00:13:47crown of

00:13:47the front

00:13:48fork.

00:13:49So they've

00:13:50pushed the

00:13:51rider far

00:13:51forward.

00:13:52So what I

00:13:53would say

00:13:54is if the

00:13:55V4 solves

00:13:57the problem

00:13:57of moving

00:13:58weight to

00:13:58the rear,

00:13:59it ought to

00:14:00be pretty

00:14:00easy to

00:14:01correct.

00:14:04So why

00:14:04have them?

00:14:05Remind me

00:14:05of those

00:14:05evolution of

00:14:06you're

00:14:06thinking back

00:14:07to, you

00:14:09know, RC

00:14:09166 and

00:14:11the Grand

00:14:12Prix bikes

00:14:12of the

00:14:121960s, it

00:14:13strikes me

00:14:15that if we

00:14:15did silhouettes

00:14:16we could

00:14:16have an

00:14:18evolution of

00:14:18man type

00:14:20of progression

00:14:22of the

00:14:23ass, starting

00:14:24at the back

00:14:24wheel and

00:14:24slowly moving

00:14:25forward.

00:14:26Absolutely.

00:14:27It's one of

00:14:28the most

00:14:28striking

00:14:28differences

00:14:29between then

00:14:30and now

00:14:31is the

00:14:31rider placement.

00:14:33Quite low

00:14:34motorcycles before

00:14:35two and

00:14:35now you're

00:14:36really sticking

00:14:38things on

00:14:39their nose and

00:14:39getting the

00:14:39seat quite

00:14:40high.

00:14:41I mean, of

00:14:41course, we

00:14:42are dealing

00:14:42with variable

00:14:43ride height

00:14:44as well at

00:14:45this point,

00:14:45which is...

00:14:47That's a big

00:14:47complication.

00:14:48The complexity

00:14:49of the system

00:14:50now is

00:14:53mind-boggling

00:14:54because we're

00:14:55talking about

00:14:55very simple

00:14:56things, not

00:14:56very simple

00:14:57things, but

00:14:57we're talking

00:14:58about, oh,

00:14:58wait, we're

00:14:59going to put

00:14:59all the weight

00:15:00on the front

00:15:00of the bike

00:15:00by using

00:15:01an inline

00:15:01four, and

00:15:02maybe we'll

00:15:03move some

00:15:03of it toward

00:15:04the center

00:15:04of mass by

00:15:05putting the

00:15:05cylinders in

00:15:06the back,

00:15:07not talking

00:15:09about every

00:15:10other possible

00:15:11influence on

00:15:12all these

00:15:12other things.

00:15:13And as you

00:15:14said, moving

00:15:14other components

00:15:15and a lot

00:15:18of bikes,

00:15:19they're sticking

00:15:19the batteries

00:15:20up on top

00:15:20of the air,

00:15:21like street

00:15:21bikes, sticking

00:15:22the batteries

00:15:22up on top

00:15:23of the air

00:15:23box and

00:15:24the electronics

00:15:25and putting

00:15:26all those

00:15:26things up

00:15:27there rather

00:15:27than back

00:15:28under the

00:15:29seat.

00:15:29Now, there's

00:15:30a problem

00:15:32here because

00:15:33the riders

00:15:33have been

00:15:34saying for

00:15:35several years,

00:15:36all of them,

00:15:37not just

00:15:37Fabio or

00:15:38Cordero,

00:15:39they've all

00:15:40been saying

00:15:40that they

00:15:41would like

00:15:42more weight

00:15:43on the

00:15:43back tire

00:15:44or more

00:15:44grip from

00:15:46the back

00:15:47tire.

00:15:48Some of

00:15:48the riders

00:15:49have said,

00:15:49Ducati has

00:15:50enough, but

00:15:51I don't.

00:15:53And we

00:15:56don't know

00:15:56that this is

00:15:57a problem,

00:15:58but people

00:15:58are talking

00:15:59about it.

00:16:00Yeah.

00:16:01They just

00:16:01have more.

00:16:02They have

00:16:03more.

00:16:04When you're

00:16:05braking straight

00:16:06up for a

00:16:06corner, the

00:16:09maximum braking

00:16:10occurs when

00:16:11the rear tire

00:16:12barely leaves

00:16:13the ground.

00:16:15You can't

00:16:15brake any

00:16:16harder than

00:16:16that because

00:16:18the back end

00:16:19will come

00:16:19around or

00:16:20it will go

00:16:22ass over

00:16:23appetite.

00:16:24so people

00:16:27talk about

00:16:28needing to

00:16:29use the

00:16:30rear brake

00:16:31more.

00:16:32Well, they're

00:16:32obviously not

00:16:33using it

00:16:34more during

00:16:34straight line

00:16:35braking before

00:16:36a corner

00:16:36entry because

00:16:38if they tried

00:16:39to use the

00:16:39rear brake

00:16:40while there's

00:16:40no weight

00:16:41on the rear

00:16:41wheel,

00:16:42nothing will

00:16:44happen in

00:16:44the way of

00:16:45braking.

00:16:47So another

00:16:48extreme that

00:16:49you could say

00:16:50is, well,

00:16:50what if they

00:16:50lower the

00:16:51motorcycle so

00:16:52much that

00:16:52when the

00:16:53rider brakes

00:16:53hard enough

00:16:54to lift the

00:16:55rear wheel

00:16:55that it

00:16:57pushes the

00:16:58front tire,

00:16:58threatens to

00:16:59lock.

00:17:00Then you

00:17:01could use

00:17:01the rear

00:17:02brake because

00:17:03there's some

00:17:04weight on

00:17:04there.

00:17:06But then

00:17:06you hear also

00:17:07riders are

00:17:09using the

00:17:09rear brake

00:17:1070% of the

00:17:11time going

00:17:12through a

00:17:12corner.

00:17:13And I can

00:17:14understand that

00:17:14on several

00:17:16bases.

00:17:17It's a good

00:17:18way to adjust

00:17:19chassis attitude

00:17:21because the

00:17:22rear brake

00:17:23caliper is

00:17:23attached to

00:17:24the swing

00:17:24arm.

00:17:24So if you

00:17:25brake, it

00:17:26tends to

00:17:26compress the

00:17:27rear suspension.

00:17:28Oh, that

00:17:29was a famous

00:17:29Freddie Spencer

00:17:30quote from

00:17:31back in the

00:17:31day.

00:17:31There were

00:17:32two instances

00:17:33when I worked

00:17:34at Cycle News.

00:17:35I read an

00:17:35old race report

00:17:36about Freddie

00:17:37Spencer and

00:17:38Henny Ray

00:17:39Abens asked

00:17:39him about the

00:17:40rear brake.

00:17:41And at the

00:17:42time, Freddie

00:17:43probably fibbing,

00:17:45rear brake?

00:17:45Huh, I never

00:17:46touch it.

00:17:47Yeah.

00:17:48When in fact,

00:17:49he did touch it

00:17:50and he was a

00:17:50big proponent

00:17:51of it all the

00:17:51way through his

00:17:52school, you

00:17:53know, when he

00:17:53was doing the

00:17:53Freddie Spencer

00:17:54riding school,

00:17:55high performance,

00:17:56Freddie Spencer

00:17:57high performance

00:17:57riding school.

00:17:59Yeah.

00:17:59And he was a

00:18:00huge proponent

00:18:01of as you're

00:18:02entering the

00:18:03corner, rear

00:18:04brake a little

00:18:04bit first to

00:18:05squat the bike,

00:18:06just as you say,

00:18:07and then

00:18:07swift but smooth

00:18:10application of the

00:18:11front brake to

00:18:11compress everything

00:18:12and get the

00:18:13contact patch out

00:18:14nice and wide.

00:18:15And to go

00:18:16farther back in

00:18:17history, perhaps

00:18:18not as far as the

00:18:19great pyramids at

00:18:20Giza, but

00:18:21approaching that

00:18:23in Mike

00:18:24Halewood's

00:18:24little book on

00:18:25riding, he

00:18:26says, apply the

00:18:28rear brake an

00:18:30instant before the

00:18:30front because it

00:18:31steadies you up.

00:18:33So, that's not

00:18:37exactly a physical

00:18:38explanation, but

00:18:39if...

00:18:40Hey, all you

00:18:40thirsty listeners

00:18:42out there, I

00:18:43will say on my

00:18:44Vela set, when

00:18:46you are hammering

00:18:47that thing on a

00:18:48back road, which

00:18:49I've done many,

00:18:49many times, the

00:18:51chassis is so

00:18:52flexible and the

00:18:53fork is so

00:18:53flexible, using the

00:18:54rear brake keeps

00:18:55the thing from

00:18:56piling up on the

00:18:57front, keeps it

00:18:58from flexing and

00:18:59wobbling and

00:19:01weaving.

00:19:01It kind of

00:19:02makes it handle

00:19:02a lot better.

00:19:03Oh, your

00:19:03drag steer gets

00:19:04out of shape and

00:19:05you pop the

00:19:05chute.

00:19:06That's right.

00:19:07Then it

00:19:07straightens right

00:19:08up.

00:19:09Helps a lot.

00:19:10It really

00:19:10does.

00:19:12So, another

00:19:16one that everyone

00:19:17holds forth about

00:19:18is engine width.

00:19:20Oh, the V4 is so

00:19:21narrow.

00:19:23It's got to have

00:19:24an aerodynamic

00:19:25advantage.

00:19:25Well, where would

00:19:26we see this?

00:19:27At the end of the

00:19:28straightaway.

00:19:28Well, the

00:19:30Yamaha is down

00:19:31on power, but

00:19:33it's always been

00:19:34down on power.

00:19:35It was down on

00:19:36power when Wayne

00:19:38Rainey was winning

00:19:39races on the

00:19:40500.

00:19:42Because, as

00:19:43Jerry Burgess

00:19:45used to say,

00:19:48there's one

00:19:49straightaway and

00:19:50there are 12 or

00:19:5114 corners.

00:19:53where would you

00:19:54like to put your

00:19:55advantage?

00:19:57And their

00:19:58bike was

00:19:59optimized for

00:20:00acceleration, for

00:20:01usable torque, for

00:20:03accelerating off of

00:20:04corners, and they

00:20:04didn't bother about

00:20:06top-end power, and

00:20:08it's been that way

00:20:08for years.

00:20:10It's been an

00:20:10expected outcome.

00:20:12I'm out reading

00:20:13all the time,

00:20:14thinking about

00:20:15things, and this

00:20:16is a related

00:20:17automotive story,

00:20:18Doug Thorley, of

00:20:20the famed Doug

00:20:21Thorley Headers

00:20:21company, was

00:20:24way back working

00:20:25with Carroll

00:20:25Shelby on the

00:20:26GT350, and

00:20:27that's where the

00:20:27Tri-Y, the

00:20:292 into 2

00:20:31into 1, on

00:20:33a V8, it's

00:20:34on either side.

00:20:35One is a

00:20:351-3-2-4, and

00:20:37the other one

00:20:38is a one, I

00:20:41forget the

00:20:42groupings, but

00:20:42the groupings are

00:20:43different because

00:20:43of the V8

00:20:44firing order.

00:20:45But Doug

00:20:45Thorley and

00:20:45Carroll Shelby,

00:20:46Carroll wanted

00:20:46more mid-range,

00:20:48he wanted more

00:20:48pull off of

00:20:49corners, and

00:20:50supposedly that's

00:20:51the origins of

00:20:53the Tri-Y on

00:20:54the V8 in

00:20:54that era.

00:20:56Yeah.

00:20:57And that's what

00:20:58we've seen on

00:20:59street bikes, too,

00:20:59we've seen the

00:21:00groupings of

00:21:02cylinders, and

00:21:03emphasizing mid-range,

00:21:04which is great on

00:21:05the street, but

00:21:05also as Kevin and

00:21:06everyone is pointing

00:21:07out, if you can

00:21:08accelerate harder

00:21:09off of 17

00:21:10corners and gain a

00:21:11fraction on

00:21:127.

00:21:13Each time.

00:21:14Well, gosh, that's

00:21:15better than, I got

00:21:17five more miles an

00:21:18hour on the

00:21:18street.

00:21:19Yeah.

00:21:19Oh, God, I got

00:21:19a brake.

00:21:20Brake, brake.

00:21:23Sure.

00:21:24So, is the

00:21:28engine wider than

00:21:29the rider?

00:21:31No.

00:21:32The inline four is

00:21:33not wider than the

00:21:34rider.

00:21:35The V4 is not

00:21:37wider than the

00:21:37rider.

00:21:38So, I don't

00:21:40think that really

00:21:41has much in it.

00:21:43except if you

00:21:45look at it as

00:21:46the, there's a

00:21:47difference between

00:21:48external aerodynamics

00:21:49and internal.

00:21:52Internal

00:21:52aerodynamics, you're

00:21:53taking in a huge

00:21:54volume of air

00:21:55through the curved

00:21:57radiator up front.

00:21:59And where does

00:22:00it go?

00:22:01Well, it blows on

00:22:03the engine's header

00:22:04pipes.

00:22:05And then it

00:22:06makes its way

00:22:08like the merry

00:22:10little breezes through

00:22:11the woods.

00:22:12It makes its

00:22:13way in and

00:22:14out and among

00:22:15all of this

00:22:16stuff that's

00:22:17packed into

00:22:17motorcycles.

00:22:18They're like a

00:22:19submarine.

00:22:20Submarines barely

00:22:21have room for

00:22:21the people.

00:22:22They have to

00:22:23sleep with

00:22:23torpedoes next

00:22:25to them.

00:22:26Well, that

00:22:29air leaks out.

00:22:31Last year, the

00:22:32Aprilia riders

00:22:33were saying they

00:22:35couldn't finish

00:22:36races in any

00:22:38kind of state

00:22:39of physical

00:22:40well-being because

00:22:41they were being

00:22:42baked by the

00:22:43engine heat.

00:22:45So engine heat

00:22:46is trying to get

00:22:47out anywhere that

00:22:48it can.

00:22:50You'll also

00:22:51notice that

00:22:52Kenny's 500

00:22:54cc two-stroke

00:22:55triple had two

00:22:56versions, one

00:22:58with two

00:22:58cylinders up and

00:22:59one cylinder down

00:23:00and the later

00:23:01one, I think,

00:23:03had one

00:23:03cylinder up and

00:23:04two cylinders

00:23:05down.

00:23:06Well, why

00:23:07would they do

00:23:08that?

00:23:09One possible

00:23:09reason would

00:23:10be to duct

00:23:11the outflow

00:23:13from the

00:23:14radiator around

00:23:15the engine to

00:23:16the low

00:23:16pressure at

00:23:17the rear of

00:23:18the motorcycle.

00:23:21It's hard to

00:23:22see where

00:23:23they're getting

00:23:24that air out.

00:23:25They're still

00:23:26putting it out

00:23:26through cheek

00:23:28outlets in the

00:23:29fairing, but

00:23:31supposedly Ducati

00:23:33in studying

00:23:34the super

00:23:36mono found

00:23:38that cheek

00:23:39outlets for

00:23:40radiator air

00:23:41are not a

00:23:42good solution

00:23:42with respect

00:23:44to drag.

00:23:46And one

00:23:47of Kenny's

00:23:49three-cylinder

00:23:50500s, the

00:23:52over-built

00:23:53Triumph, and

00:23:55John Britton's

00:23:58wonderful

00:23:59thousand cc

00:24:00what-if

00:24:03motorcycle, all

00:24:04had ducted

00:24:05radiators.

00:24:06In some

00:24:07cases, the

00:24:08radiator was

00:24:08horizontal

00:24:09underneath the

00:24:10seat, and

00:24:11ducts came

00:24:12from the

00:24:12front to

00:24:14the radiators,

00:24:15but nobody

00:24:16is running

00:24:16such a thing

00:24:17now.

00:24:19So,

00:24:21mood.

00:24:23So, that

00:24:24bothers me.

00:24:27Another one

00:24:27that people

00:24:28like to talk

00:24:28about is

00:24:29crankshaft

00:24:29bearing loss.

00:24:30The inline

00:24:31four has, of

00:24:32course, four

00:24:33crankpins

00:24:34disposed, in

00:24:35the case of

00:24:36the Yamaha, at

00:24:3690 degrees

00:24:37all the way

00:24:38along.

00:24:39The dual

00:24:40plane

00:24:40crankshaft.

00:24:42And it

00:24:43has five

00:24:44main bearings,

00:24:45one at

00:24:45either end,

00:24:46and three

00:24:47between adjacent

00:24:48cylinders.

00:24:50Well, that's

00:24:51a real

00:24:53difference right

00:24:54there, isn't

00:24:54it?

00:24:54Look, there's

00:24:55five main

00:24:55bearings, and

00:24:56over here,

00:24:56this V4 only

00:24:57has two

00:24:58crankpins and

00:24:59three main

00:25:00bearings.

00:25:02Aha, we

00:25:02found it.

00:25:04Oh, wait a

00:25:05minute now.

00:25:07The total

00:25:08load on

00:25:09bearings is

00:25:10the same

00:25:11between the

00:25:12two motorcycles.

00:25:13Pistons are

00:25:13yanking up and

00:25:14down.

00:25:15So, and

00:25:18here's another

00:25:18proposal killer,

00:25:21a favorite of

00:25:22mine.

00:25:22let's imagine

00:25:24that 25%

00:25:26of the

00:25:26energy of

00:25:27the combustion

00:25:29gas beating

00:25:29on the

00:25:30pistons goes

00:25:31for friction.

00:25:32Some of it

00:25:33goes for

00:25:34pushing the

00:25:34pistons down

00:25:35the cylinder

00:25:36while the

00:25:37rings are

00:25:38loaded outward

00:25:40against the

00:25:40cylinder wall,

00:25:41and the

00:25:42few oil

00:25:44molecules that

00:25:45are between

00:25:45the rings and

00:25:46the cylinder

00:25:47wall are

00:25:47kind of being

00:25:48rolled up into

00:25:49little balls,

00:25:50and they're

00:25:51objecting.

00:25:52This is

00:25:53called sliding

00:25:54friction.

00:25:57Some of it

00:25:58goes to the

00:26:00bearings, some

00:26:00of it goes to

00:26:01the accessories,

00:26:02the water

00:26:02pump, the

00:26:03electricity

00:26:04station.

00:26:06So, what

00:26:07do they do?

00:26:09At the

00:26:09factory, they

00:26:11have a

00:26:11motoring

00:26:12dyno.

00:26:13It has an

00:26:13electric motor

00:26:14that will spin

00:26:15the engine that

00:26:16you want to

00:26:17test.

00:26:17You put the

00:26:19engine on

00:26:19there, and

00:26:21you spin it

00:26:22with an

00:26:23electric motor,

00:26:24and you

00:26:24measure the

00:26:25torque required

00:26:26to spin it

00:26:27at various

00:26:28RPM, and

00:26:28you record

00:26:31the data.

00:26:32Next, you

00:26:33test a

00:26:34series of

00:26:35partial builds.

00:26:37You remove

00:26:38various things

00:26:39from the

00:26:39engine, the

00:26:40accessories,

00:26:42the

00:26:42camshafts,

00:26:45the

00:26:46rings,

00:26:47and

00:26:49leave the

00:26:49pistons.

00:26:50And what

00:26:51do you

00:26:51find?

00:26:52You find

00:26:52that the

00:26:53pistons and

00:26:53rings are

00:26:54at least

00:26:56half of

00:26:57total engine

00:26:58friction,

00:26:59which is

00:27:00something like

00:27:0025% of

00:27:03gross power.

00:27:05I didn't

00:27:05say net,

00:27:06I said

00:27:06gross.

00:27:08So,

00:27:10the

00:27:10crankshaft

00:27:11bearings seem

00:27:12to be good

00:27:13for about

00:27:1410% of

00:27:1625%,

00:27:17which is

00:27:182.5%

00:27:19of engine

00:27:22power.

00:27:23So,

00:27:24well,

00:27:24that's

00:27:24something.

00:27:26We should

00:27:27give that

00:27:27some attention.

00:27:28But,

00:27:29having five

00:27:30main bearings

00:27:31instead of

00:27:32three,

00:27:33with both

00:27:34sets of

00:27:34bearings carrying

00:27:35the same

00:27:35load,

00:27:36seems to me

00:27:37like this

00:27:38is moot.

00:27:39this is

00:27:39not a

00:27:40big

00:27:40distinction.

00:27:46Okay,

00:27:47we have

00:27:48another

00:27:50biggie

00:27:50here,

00:27:50which is

00:27:51what I

00:27:52learned

00:27:52from

00:27:54Mr.

00:27:57Ishikawa

00:27:58when I

00:27:58visited

00:27:59Honda.

00:28:00We're

00:28:00standing in

00:28:01the lobby,

00:28:02which is

00:28:02about as

00:28:02far as

00:28:03you can

00:28:03get at

00:28:04HRC.

00:28:05We were

00:28:05shown to

00:28:06a conference

00:28:08room,

00:28:09been told

00:28:09to put

00:28:09our

00:28:09coats

00:28:10there.

00:28:12But,

00:28:12in the

00:28:13lobby,

00:28:13they had

00:28:13the new

00:28:14Fireblade

00:28:16and Mr.

00:28:19Ishikawa

00:28:20said,

00:28:22I am an

00:28:23inline guy.

00:28:24I really

00:28:25like inline

00:28:26engines.

00:28:27He is the

00:28:28LPL on

00:28:29the 2020

00:28:30Fireblade.

00:28:32He said,

00:28:33the big

00:28:34difference

00:28:34between an

00:28:35inline and

00:28:36the V4

00:28:36is

00:28:37crankshaft

00:28:38stability.

00:28:39when an

00:28:42inline

00:28:421000cc

00:28:43engine

00:28:44gets up

00:28:44around

00:28:4516,000

00:28:46RPM,

00:28:48that's

00:28:48about it

00:28:49for smooth

00:28:50rotation of

00:28:50the crankshaft.

00:28:52Rev it up

00:28:52higher and

00:28:53you begin to

00:28:53get torsional

00:28:55vibrations.

00:28:57And those

00:28:58torsional

00:28:59vibrations

00:28:59affect valve

00:29:01timing.

00:29:01Because what

00:29:02that means

00:29:02is that

00:29:03instead of

00:29:04rotating

00:29:04smoothly,

00:29:05like a

00:29:07giant fly

00:29:08wheel,

00:29:09the crankshaft

00:29:10has RPM

00:29:11flutter.

00:29:12So,

00:29:13in calculating

00:29:15our valve

00:29:16float

00:29:16threshold,

00:29:18do we

00:29:18use,

00:29:19here's the

00:29:20flutter,

00:29:21do we use

00:29:21the maximum

00:29:22value,

00:29:23the minimum

00:29:23value,

00:29:24the average

00:29:25value of

00:29:25the RPM?

00:29:26and of

00:29:29course,

00:29:30I've told

00:29:31this tale

00:29:31before,

00:29:32but I'm

00:29:32going to

00:29:32tell it

00:29:33again and

00:29:33you can

00:29:34just yawn

00:29:35and show

00:29:36your displeasure

00:29:37by various

00:29:38means.

00:29:39But,

00:29:41where am I

00:29:43going with

00:29:44this?

00:29:44We were

00:29:47in RPM

00:29:48flutter.

00:29:49Yeah,

00:29:49the flutter.

00:29:50Honda

00:29:51have

00:29:52published

00:29:52some

00:29:53reports

00:29:54on their

00:29:55past

00:29:55experiences

00:29:56in Formula

00:29:57One.

00:29:58I think

00:29:58this is

00:29:59wonderfully

00:29:59generous

00:30:00of them

00:30:00and it's

00:30:01a warning

00:30:01to the

00:30:02other

00:30:02Formula

00:30:02One

00:30:03constructors.

00:30:05Look at

00:30:05all the

00:30:06incredible

00:30:07lengths we

00:30:07go to.

00:30:08Give up

00:30:08now.

00:30:09There's

00:30:09still time.

00:30:12So,

00:30:13the example

00:30:14given was

00:30:15they said

00:30:16we develop

00:30:16this valve

00:30:17train.

00:30:18Maybe it

00:30:19has pneumatic

00:30:20springs,

00:30:20who knows.

00:30:21But at

00:30:21any rate,

00:30:22they develop

00:30:23the profile

00:30:24that they

00:30:24want to

00:30:24give the

00:30:26intake

00:30:27airflow

00:30:27that the

00:30:28engine

00:30:29requires.

00:30:30And they

00:30:31find the

00:30:32valve float

00:30:34threshold.

00:30:35How do

00:30:35they find

00:30:36it?

00:30:36They use

00:30:37an

00:30:39interferometric

00:30:40device to

00:30:42measure the

00:30:42valve

00:30:43position to

00:30:44one

00:30:46wavelength of

00:30:46light.

00:30:49And they

00:30:51find that

00:30:52the valve

00:30:54float

00:30:54threshold is

00:30:55when the

00:30:57valve motion

00:30:58no longer

00:30:58corresponds to

00:30:59the cam

00:31:00profile.

00:31:02So,

00:31:03let's say

00:31:03that occurs

00:31:04at x

00:31:05RPM.

00:31:06Now,

00:31:07they take

00:31:07that lovely,

00:31:09beautifully

00:31:09developed

00:31:10valve train

00:31:11and put it

00:31:11on the

00:31:12engine that

00:31:12it's intended

00:31:13for.

00:31:14And they

00:31:15started him

00:31:17up and

00:31:18pretty soon

00:31:19it's warm

00:31:20and we're

00:31:21ready to

00:31:22run.

00:31:24Where's the

00:31:25valve throat?

00:31:26Valve float

00:31:27threshold.

00:31:27x minus

00:31:301,500 RPM.

00:31:36Now,

00:31:37this

00:31:38is

00:31:41strongly

00:31:42different from

00:31:43our intuitive

00:31:45idea of the

00:31:45crack shaft.

00:31:46You've got this

00:31:47thing in your

00:31:47hands of

00:31:48steel.

00:31:48It's strong.

00:31:50Actually,

00:31:51it's jello.

00:31:51you give it

00:31:56a tap with

00:31:56a soft

00:31:57hammer and

00:31:58it goes

00:31:58bong so

00:32:00you know

00:32:00it vibrates.

00:32:02You wind

00:32:03one end up

00:32:04and let it

00:32:04go and it

00:32:05vibrates at a

00:32:06different

00:32:07frequency.

00:32:09And because

00:32:10the pistons

00:32:11are accelerating

00:32:13the crankshaft

00:32:13when they fire

00:32:14and the

00:32:14crankshaft is

00:32:15coasting down

00:32:16between firing

00:32:17impulses,

00:32:18there is a

00:32:18flutter from

00:32:20combustion

00:32:20pressure.

00:32:23Well,

00:32:25the higher

00:32:27you rev

00:32:28an engine,

00:32:30the greater

00:32:30the chance

00:32:31that the

00:32:32torsional

00:32:33frequency

00:32:34of the

00:32:35engine will

00:32:36be excited

00:32:36by something

00:32:37that's happening

00:32:38such as the

00:32:38sequence of

00:32:39combustion pulses

00:32:40or the

00:32:41resistance of

00:32:42the camshafts

00:32:43coming through

00:32:43the gear

00:32:44drive.

00:32:45Because the

00:32:46camshaft is

00:32:46trying to

00:32:48accelerate a

00:32:49valve at

00:32:49what,

00:32:503,000,

00:32:514,000 times

00:32:52gravity?

00:32:54That's a

00:32:54pulse of

00:32:55torque.

00:32:56That's a

00:32:56bunch of

00:32:57torque.

00:32:58And then

00:32:59the next

00:32:59minute,

00:33:00another valve

00:33:01is closing

00:33:01and it's

00:33:02giving back

00:33:02that energy.

00:33:03The spring

00:33:04is expanding.

00:33:05That power

00:33:06is going

00:33:06into the

00:33:07camshaft.

00:33:08So the

00:33:08camshaft

00:33:09itself is

00:33:10subject to

00:33:11torsional

00:33:12windup.

00:33:13This is one

00:33:14of the reasons

00:33:14why the

00:33:15recent builds

00:33:16of giant

00:33:17V8s way

00:33:18out beyond

00:33:18600

00:33:19cubic

00:33:19inches.

00:33:20They're

00:33:20putting

00:33:21these huge

00:33:21cams in

00:33:22because they

00:33:25need a

00:33:25stiffer cam

00:33:26to keep

00:33:26it out

00:33:27of torsional

00:33:27vibration.

00:33:29Well,

00:33:30that 1500

00:33:31RPM difference

00:33:33between the

00:33:34ideal valve

00:33:35float threshold

00:33:37and the

00:33:38actual one

00:33:38is a

00:33:40serious

00:33:40business.

00:33:40So in

00:33:44Formula 1

00:33:44crankshafts

00:33:46have all

00:33:46these

00:33:47dampers,

00:33:48different

00:33:49kinds of

00:33:50dampers on

00:33:50the

00:33:50crankshaft

00:33:51and on

00:33:52the

00:33:52camshaft,

00:33:52sometimes

00:33:53on both

00:33:53ends.

00:33:54One of

00:33:55the systems

00:33:55that Honda

00:33:56tested had

00:33:57two cam

00:33:57drives,

00:33:58one on

00:33:58each end

00:33:59of the

00:34:01camshaft.

00:34:02So this

00:34:05is serious

00:34:06business.

00:34:07Okay,

00:34:08the V4

00:34:08has little

00:34:09short

00:34:09camshafts

00:34:10and it

00:34:10has a

00:34:11little

00:34:11short

00:34:11crankshaft.

00:34:12It is

00:34:13stable,

00:34:14relatively

00:34:14speaking,

00:34:15said Mr.

00:34:16Ishikawa,

00:34:17up to

00:34:1718,000

00:34:18before it

00:34:21starts to

00:34:22need help

00:34:23in the

00:34:23form of

00:34:24some sort

00:34:24of dampers.

00:34:25Yeah.

00:34:26And this

00:34:27is not

00:34:28some kind

00:34:29of ionospheric

00:34:30weirdness

00:34:31that only

00:34:32happens at

00:34:33HRC

00:34:34because

00:34:35those of

00:34:36you with

00:34:36experience

00:34:37of RC-30

00:34:38Honda

00:34:38will remember

00:34:40some of

00:34:41them came

00:34:41with camshafts

00:34:42with fly

00:34:43wheels on

00:34:44them.

00:34:45Makes sense.

00:34:46So this

00:34:47is a serious

00:34:48problem with

00:34:49engines.

00:34:50Well,

00:34:51it's everywhere,

00:34:51Kevin,

00:34:52because I was

00:34:52underneath my

00:34:53Ford F-250

00:34:54taking the

00:34:55engine out

00:34:55some months

00:34:56ago and

00:34:57there were a

00:34:58few things

00:34:58that needed

00:34:59some impact

00:34:59and I

00:35:00invested my

00:35:02half-inch

00:35:02snap-on

00:35:03air

00:35:03ratchet

00:35:04impact gun

00:35:06gave up.

00:35:07I needed

00:35:08to take

00:35:08it apart

00:35:09and fix

00:35:09it.

00:35:09So I

00:35:09did the

00:35:10expedient

00:35:11thing and

00:35:11I bought

00:35:11a new

00:35:12Makita

00:35:12with the

00:35:121100 pound

00:35:15feet of

00:35:15what they

00:35:16say nut

00:35:16busting

00:35:17torque for

00:35:18loosening

00:35:19something up.

00:35:19So I had

00:35:20some very

00:35:20tight things

00:35:22underneath,

00:35:22exhaust things

00:35:23and I

00:35:23needed to

00:35:24hammer them

00:35:24off.

00:35:25But I

00:35:26couldn't get

00:35:26the gun

00:35:27up there.

00:35:27So the

00:35:30one I

00:35:30could get

00:35:30to,

00:35:31socket,

00:35:32gun,

00:35:33off it

00:35:34came.

00:35:35The one

00:35:35I had

00:35:35to get

00:35:36upped

00:35:36into,

00:35:37I used

00:35:37a long

00:35:37extension.

00:35:40You know

00:35:40what that

00:35:40is?

00:35:41That's a

00:35:41torsional

00:35:41spring.

00:35:42Yes,

00:35:42sir.

00:35:43Did not

00:35:44want to

00:35:44come off.

00:35:45Had to

00:35:46find other

00:35:46strategies.

00:35:47And it's

00:35:48exactly what's

00:35:48happening with

00:35:49the crank.

00:35:49You think

00:35:50about any,

00:35:50you know,

00:35:50just stretch

00:35:51the length,

00:35:52short stubby

00:35:52screwdriver,

00:35:53as close as

00:35:54you can get

00:35:55to the work,

00:35:56your force

00:35:56goes into

00:35:56the nut,

00:35:57you get far

00:35:58away through

00:35:58a long

00:35:59bar,

00:35:59you just

00:36:01sit there

00:36:01gung,

00:36:02gung,

00:36:03gung,

00:36:04you could

00:36:04do that

00:36:05forever and

00:36:05it isn't

00:36:06going to

00:36:06move because

00:36:06it's

00:36:07sucking it

00:36:07up,

00:36:08vibrating away.

00:36:10It's not

00:36:10transmitting the

00:36:11impacts very

00:36:14well through

00:36:15that spring.

00:36:16Yeah,

00:36:16it's softening

00:36:17it up.

00:36:19So I

00:36:20take this

00:36:21valve timing

00:36:21thing quite

00:36:22seriously,

00:36:23but these

00:36:24companies,

00:36:26they read

00:36:29the literature,

00:36:30they are

00:36:31involved with

00:36:32Formula One,

00:36:33they know

00:36:34all this

00:36:34stuff and

00:36:36they have

00:36:36the equipment

00:36:37with which

00:36:37to test

00:36:38and discover

00:36:39what is

00:36:40happening.

00:36:41So there

00:36:44used to

00:36:44be,

00:36:45MIT had a

00:36:46special

00:36:47tarsio graph

00:36:48that was

00:36:49attached to

00:36:50the crankshafts

00:36:51of big

00:36:51radials and

00:36:53they found

00:36:53out that

00:36:54these massive

00:36:56three main

00:36:58bearing,

00:36:58crankshafts

00:37:00were winding

00:37:01up more

00:37:02than half

00:37:02a degree.

00:37:05Now you

00:37:05imagine

00:37:06fastening

00:37:09one end

00:37:09of it to

00:37:10a reliable

00:37:11steel structure

00:37:12and putting

00:37:13a bar on

00:37:13the other

00:37:14end and

00:37:14dangling from

00:37:15it and

00:37:16looking at

00:37:17the deflection.

00:37:19Do we have

00:37:19a half a

00:37:20degree yet?

00:37:21No,

00:37:21no.

00:37:22Get some

00:37:22more fellows

00:37:23on this

00:37:23bar.

00:37:24But what

00:37:26does happen

00:37:27is that

00:37:27when you

00:37:27get up

00:37:28to the

00:37:29speed

00:37:29where

00:37:30the

00:37:30torsional

00:37:32frequency

00:37:32of the

00:37:33crankshaft

00:37:34is being

00:37:36excited by

00:37:37rapid events

00:37:38in the

00:37:38engine,

00:37:40then it's

00:37:40like pushing

00:37:41a small

00:37:41child on

00:37:42the swing.

00:37:43You keep

00:37:44pushing in

00:37:45synchrony with

00:37:46the swing

00:37:46and pretty

00:37:47soon the

00:37:47chains are

00:37:48going slack

00:37:49at the

00:37:50height of

00:37:50the swing.

00:37:51and you're

00:37:52thinking this

00:37:53is crazy.

00:37:54Good thing

00:37:55my wife

00:37:55isn't here

00:37:56because I'd

00:37:57hear about

00:37:57this.

00:38:00So this

00:38:02is some

00:38:03serious

00:38:04stuff.

00:38:06Making

00:38:06the valves

00:38:07do your

00:38:07bidding.

00:38:09But I

00:38:09think these

00:38:09are competent

00:38:10companies.

00:38:11I don't

00:38:11think that

00:38:12this is a

00:38:14problem for

00:38:14the people

00:38:15in this

00:38:16series.

00:38:18Okay,

00:38:19well,

00:38:19another one.

00:38:20How about

00:38:20crankshaft

00:38:22windage?

00:38:26Oil is

00:38:27flying out

00:38:27of the

00:38:28main and

00:38:29connecting rod

00:38:30bearings,

00:38:30so there's

00:38:31oil in

00:38:31there.

00:38:32Where does

00:38:32it go?

00:38:34Well,

00:38:34ideally it

00:38:35flies out,

00:38:36hits the

00:38:36walls of

00:38:37the crank

00:38:38case,

00:38:39and

00:38:39trickles

00:38:42down to

00:38:43where the

00:38:43scavenge

00:38:43pump is

00:38:44located.

00:38:46But

00:38:47that's a

00:38:49minor problem.

00:38:50the real

00:38:51problem is

00:38:52pumping air

00:38:53on an

00:38:54inline

00:38:55engine.

00:38:56And you

00:38:57may remember

00:38:57this from,

00:38:58I don't know,

00:38:5915, 20

00:38:59years ago,

00:39:00when the

00:39:01manufacturers

00:39:02discovered

00:39:03that it

00:39:04took power

00:39:05for the

00:39:07descending

00:39:08piston to

00:39:09push the

00:39:09air around

00:39:10the main

00:39:12bearing to

00:39:13be able to

00:39:13follow the

00:39:14adjacent piston,

00:39:15which is

00:39:16rising.

00:39:16and then

00:39:17when it

00:39:17reverses,

00:39:18the air

00:39:19goes back

00:39:19and forth

00:39:21and back

00:39:22and forth

00:39:22to the tune

00:39:23of four or

00:39:24five horsepower

00:39:24they were

00:39:25picking up

00:39:26in production

00:39:27inline

00:39:28force by

00:39:29making

00:39:30big,

00:39:31smooth-edged

00:39:32holes

00:39:33between...

00:39:34Oh, yeah,

00:39:34the ports.

00:39:35Yeah, the ports.

00:39:37So that is

00:39:38the real meaning

00:39:39of crankcase

00:39:40windage.

00:39:40And it

00:39:44used to be

00:39:44that at

00:39:45the end

00:39:45of each

00:39:46year Yamaha

00:39:47would publish

00:39:48a technical

00:39:49report on

00:39:50their year

00:39:51in Grand

00:39:51Prix racing.

00:39:52They don't

00:39:52do it

00:39:52anymore,

00:39:53I believe,

00:39:54because it

00:39:56doesn't do

00:39:57to tell

00:39:57other people

00:39:58what you're

00:39:59up to.

00:40:01So if

00:40:03the Russians

00:40:03had been

00:40:04ready for

00:40:04the drone

00:40:05attacks,

00:40:06but you

00:40:08learn by

00:40:08experience.

00:40:09what Yamaha

00:40:13did was

00:40:13they put

00:40:14a vacuum

00:40:14pump on

00:40:15the crankcase

00:40:16and they

00:40:18pumped the

00:40:18crankcase

00:40:18down so

00:40:19there was

00:40:20no wind

00:40:20to have

00:40:21windage.

00:40:22There was

00:40:22nothing to

00:40:23transfer from

00:40:24one crank

00:40:25chamber to

00:40:26the next.

00:40:28And when

00:40:29I went to

00:40:30Gainesville,

00:40:32or no,

00:40:32Charlotte for

00:40:33NHRA a

00:40:35while ago,

00:40:37they showed

00:40:38me their

00:40:38crankcase.

00:40:39It's

00:40:40electric and

00:40:41it makes

00:40:42quite a

00:40:43loud noise.

00:40:44You know

00:40:45how a

00:40:46diaphragm

00:40:47pump for

00:40:48painting or

00:40:49whatever is

00:40:50noisy.

00:40:52So they

00:40:53flick this

00:40:53thing on,

00:40:54makes a

00:40:55loud noise,

00:40:56pumps out

00:40:57all the air

00:40:57from the

00:40:57crankcase,

00:40:58no more

00:40:58windage.

00:40:59I'm going

00:40:59suction side

00:41:00of a

00:41:00leaf blower

00:41:01on my

00:41:01Velocet.

00:41:02so what

00:41:07does Honda

00:41:07do?

00:41:09I suspect

00:41:10that what

00:41:10they do

00:41:11is what

00:41:12you hear

00:41:12about

00:41:13Formula

00:41:13One,

00:41:13which is

00:41:14you divide

00:41:14the engine

00:41:16down the

00:41:17center and

00:41:18have two

00:41:19sealed

00:41:19crankpin

00:41:20chambers

00:41:21with a

00:41:22main bearing

00:41:23between them.

00:41:23each side

00:41:26has its

00:41:26own oil

00:41:27scavenge

00:41:27pump.

00:41:29What happens

00:41:30is the two

00:41:30pistons are

00:41:31moving this

00:41:32way and

00:41:34the air is

00:41:38moving but

00:41:39it has

00:41:40nothing in

00:41:41its way.

00:41:41so it's

00:41:43largely

00:41:45loss free

00:41:46and if

00:41:49you have

00:41:49a narrower

00:41:49V angle

00:41:50than 90

00:41:51you're

00:41:53compressing

00:41:53and expanding

00:41:54it.

00:41:55Well,

00:41:55it's like

00:41:55compressing

00:41:56and expanding

00:41:57a spring.

00:41:59You get

00:42:00the energy,

00:42:00you put in

00:42:01the energy

00:42:01and you get

00:42:02back 98%.

00:42:03So these

00:42:06companies have

00:42:07worked on

00:42:08crankcase

00:42:09windage.

00:42:09I heard

00:42:12I was

00:42:13recently at

00:42:13a car race

00:42:14in the pit

00:42:14working with

00:42:16a friend

00:42:16on an

00:42:17800 horsepower

00:42:17tube frame

00:42:19American race

00:42:21car Mustang

00:42:21and was

00:42:23talking about

00:42:23the engine

00:42:24and it's

00:42:24800 horse

00:42:265.8 liter

00:42:27it's got a

00:42:28big four

00:42:29barrel carb

00:42:30on it

00:42:30just a lawn

00:42:31sprinkler up

00:42:32there doing

00:42:32its job

00:42:33and the

00:42:36mains are

00:42:37basically

00:42:38capped and

00:42:39sealed

00:42:39with its

00:42:40own

00:42:41like

00:42:42tray

00:42:44it's got

00:42:44its own

00:42:44pump

00:42:45so the

00:42:45main oil

00:42:46never sees

00:42:47the inside

00:42:48of the

00:42:48crankcase

00:42:50it's just

00:42:50sucked

00:42:50right out

00:42:51of the

00:42:51mains

00:42:51and back

00:42:52into the

00:42:52oil supply

00:42:53so it

00:42:55bolts

00:42:56right up

00:42:56so I

00:42:57thought that

00:42:57was an

00:42:58interesting

00:42:58case

00:42:59for

00:43:00windage

00:43:00yeah

00:43:01well that

00:43:02was

00:43:02that's

00:43:03the story

00:43:03about

00:43:04junior

00:43:04johnson

00:43:05and

00:43:06zero

00:43:08w10

00:43:09oil

00:43:09because

00:43:11he saw

00:43:13that

00:43:14there was

00:43:15you know

00:43:15everybody

00:43:16in the

00:43:16engine

00:43:16business

00:43:17has

00:43:17put a

00:43:18lucite

00:43:18window

00:43:19and some

00:43:20powerful

00:43:20lights

00:43:21and looked

00:43:21at what's

00:43:22going on

00:43:22in the

00:43:22crankcase

00:43:23just as

00:43:23you did

00:43:24with your

00:43:24gearbox

00:43:24and they

00:43:26have found

00:43:27that it

00:43:27is a

00:43:28terrible

00:43:28storm

00:43:29in the

00:43:30north

00:43:30atlantic

00:43:31that is

00:43:32threatening

00:43:32to turn

00:43:32your boat

00:43:33upside down

00:43:33and

00:43:35junior

00:43:37thought

00:43:38I gotta

00:43:39reduce the

00:43:40volume of

00:43:40oil present

00:43:41in the

00:43:42engine

00:43:42in any

00:43:42given

00:43:43instant

00:43:43and his

00:43:44first thought

00:43:44was

00:43:45smaller

00:43:46clearances

00:43:47less

00:43:48viscous

00:43:48oil

00:43:49and

00:43:51the

00:43:51lubrication

00:43:52guy said

00:43:53well you

00:43:53go down

00:43:53in viscosity

00:43:54pretty soon

00:43:55the

00:43:55asperities

00:43:57asperities

00:43:57I was

00:43:58waiting

00:43:58for it

00:43:59yes

00:43:59it's been

00:44:01so long

00:44:01yes

00:44:02oh my

00:44:03old friend

00:44:04the

00:44:05asperities

00:44:06on the

00:44:07crank

00:44:07journals

00:44:07are sticking

00:44:09up through

00:44:09the oil

00:44:10film

00:44:10and gouging

00:44:11the bearing

00:44:12super finish

00:44:13let's go

00:44:14you can't

00:44:14do that

00:44:15well he

00:44:16thought what

00:44:16if we make

00:44:17the crankshaft

00:44:17journal smoother

00:44:18and an

00:44:21old fellow

00:44:21that he

00:44:22must have

00:44:23encountered

00:44:23said well

00:44:24you know

00:44:24what we

00:44:24did

00:44:25during

00:44:25the war

00:44:25we

00:44:26carceler

00:44:27developed a

00:44:28super finish

00:44:29process

00:44:29uses

00:44:30laps

00:44:31and

00:44:32they

00:44:33they're

00:44:34supported

00:44:34on cool

00:44:35oil

00:44:35and they

00:44:36don't touch

00:44:37the journal

00:44:37until the

00:44:38oil temperature

00:44:39comes up

00:44:40and gradually

00:44:40the laps

00:44:41move closer

00:44:42and closer

00:44:42to the

00:44:43crankpin

00:44:43until finally

00:44:44they're just

00:44:45taking the

00:44:45tops of the

00:44:46asperities

00:44:47off

00:44:47and they

00:44:49let it

00:44:49move down

00:44:50until

00:44:50the cycle

00:44:52is finished

00:44:52and then

00:44:53they have

00:44:53this

00:44:53journal

00:44:54which is

00:44:54not

00:44:55micro

00:44:55polished

00:44:56micro

00:44:56polish

00:44:57is what

00:44:57you get

00:44:57at the

00:44:58shoe shine

00:44:58stand

00:44:59what you

00:45:01get is a

00:45:02true cylinder

00:45:02that's what

00:45:04you need

00:45:04in the way

00:45:05of a

00:45:06crankshaft

00:45:06journal

00:45:06so

00:45:07that

00:45:10was

00:45:12and I

00:45:12believe

00:45:12Honda

00:45:13almost

00:45:13immediately

00:45:14applied that

00:45:15to

00:45:15Goldwing

00:45:16it has

00:45:17it has

00:45:18a super

00:45:18finished

00:45:19crankshaft

00:45:19from

00:45:21years ago

00:45:22so this

00:45:23is all

00:45:24old hat

00:45:24isn't it

00:45:26all though

00:45:27well it

00:45:28is yes

00:45:28because

00:45:29we don't

00:45:30know

00:45:30and we

00:45:31don't know

00:45:31any flies

00:45:32on the

00:45:32wall

00:45:32what's

00:45:33going on

00:45:33at HRC

00:45:34or whatever

00:45:35Yamaha

00:45:35call their

00:45:36think tank

00:45:38not deep

00:45:39inside

00:45:40don't you

00:45:40just want

00:45:40the

00:45:41you just

00:45:42want to

00:45:42go to

00:45:43Ducati

00:45:43and have

00:45:43them take

00:45:44the whole

00:45:44thing apart

00:45:45right in

00:45:45front of

00:45:46you

00:45:46start asking

00:45:48questions

00:45:49wouldn't

00:45:49that be

00:45:49great

00:45:50it would

00:45:50be cool

00:45:51so

00:45:52this

00:45:54leaves us

00:45:54with this

00:45:55with this

00:45:55oh by the

00:45:56one thing

00:45:57I left

00:45:57out

00:45:57let's

00:45:58imagine

00:45:59that each

00:45:59crankshaft

00:46:00main bearing

00:46:01contributes an

00:46:02equal amount

00:46:03of friction

00:46:04torque

00:46:04so

00:46:05the Yamaha

00:46:06has five

00:46:07the Honda

00:46:09has three

00:46:10the other

00:46:10V4s all

00:46:11have three

00:46:12well

00:46:14the Yamaha

00:46:15has only

00:46:16one cam

00:46:16drive

00:46:17and two

00:46:18cams

00:46:19and the

00:46:20others

00:46:20my goodness

00:46:21they have

00:46:22two

00:46:23cam drives

00:46:24two sets

00:46:25of gears

00:46:25oh

00:46:27think of

00:46:28the friction

00:46:28think of

00:46:30the

00:46:30think of

00:46:31the lost

00:46:31motion

00:46:32the timing

00:46:33inaccuracies

00:46:34oh

00:46:35where's

00:46:36my

00:46:36where's

00:46:36my

00:46:36motion

00:46:37I need

00:46:38three

00:46:39so

00:46:41again

00:46:43to me

00:46:43it seems

00:46:44moot

00:46:45so I get

00:46:47down to the

00:46:47end of

00:46:48this list

00:46:49I wrote

00:46:50this all

00:46:50up

00:46:50as a

00:46:51sort of

00:46:52guideline

00:46:52to this

00:46:53conversation

00:46:54and at

00:46:56the end

00:46:56the idea

00:46:59that I

00:46:59thought of

00:46:59was

00:47:00every now

00:47:01and then

00:47:01it's a

00:47:02good idea

00:47:02to start

00:47:03over

00:47:03because you

00:47:04might think

00:47:04of something

00:47:05new

00:47:05and

00:47:07switching

00:47:08to a

00:47:08V4

00:47:09is a

00:47:09way

00:47:10to do

00:47:10that

00:47:11but

00:47:12motorcycle

00:47:14races

00:47:14are seldom

00:47:15won by

00:47:16engine

00:47:17power

00:47:17so all

00:47:18this focusing

00:47:19on what

00:47:20the engine

00:47:20can produce

00:47:22in the way

00:47:23of power

00:47:24or power

00:47:24band

00:47:24that's

00:47:26one set

00:47:26of questions

00:47:27but the

00:47:27other set

00:47:27of questions

00:47:28is

00:47:28why

00:47:30couldn't

00:47:30they get

00:47:31the Yamaha

00:47:32chassis

00:47:32to handle

00:47:33and why

00:47:34is

00:47:34Quartarero

00:47:35saying

00:47:36now

00:47:37that the

00:47:37new bike

00:47:38is no

00:47:39improvement

00:47:39on the

00:47:40inline

00:47:40well

00:47:41and an

00:47:42interesting

00:47:42observation

00:47:43that I

00:47:43saw

00:47:44wandering

00:47:44around

00:47:45the

00:47:45great

00:47:45interwebs

00:47:46Matt

00:47:47Oxley

00:47:48you know

00:47:49a long

00:47:49time

00:47:50writer

00:47:51and technically

00:47:51oriented

00:47:52guy

00:47:52you can

00:47:53find him

00:47:53just search

00:47:54for Matt

00:47:55Oxley

00:47:55and you

00:47:55can hear

00:47:56about all

00:47:57his stories

00:47:57of MotoGP

00:47:58he's been

00:47:58a long

00:47:59time observer

00:47:59and he

00:48:00gets up

00:48:00in there

00:48:01he said

00:48:02he'd never

00:48:04seen a

00:48:05pivot area

00:48:05swing arm

00:48:06pivot area

00:48:06on the

00:48:07V4

00:48:07he'd never

00:48:08seen a

00:48:08pivot area

00:48:09as flexible

00:48:10as the

00:48:11new Yamaha

00:48:12V4's

00:48:13is

00:48:13he said

00:48:14that the

00:48:14pivot area

00:48:15is almost

00:48:16as thin

00:48:16as the

00:48:17Ducati

00:48:18Desmosidichi

00:48:19engine

00:48:19hangars

00:48:20yeah

00:48:20and

00:48:21and they're

00:48:23still

00:48:23complaining

00:48:23about

00:48:24rear grip

00:48:24so

00:48:25and what

00:48:26he's

00:48:26talking

00:48:26what

00:48:26they're

00:48:27going

00:48:27for

00:48:27is

00:48:28that

00:48:28sideways

00:48:28suspension

00:48:29that

00:48:29Kevin

00:48:29has

00:48:30talked

00:48:30about

00:48:30for

00:48:30decades

00:48:31now

00:48:32is that

00:48:32getting the

00:48:33motorcycle

00:48:34leaned over

00:48:34and you know

00:48:36you can't compress

00:48:37the suspension

00:48:37at a 60 degree

00:48:39angle as well

00:48:40as you can

00:48:40when it's vertical

00:48:41and you need

00:48:42something that

00:48:43has a little

00:48:43give to allow

00:48:44the side

00:48:45of the tire

00:48:46the side

00:48:46of the tire

00:48:47has a little

00:48:47give

00:48:47but not a lot

00:48:49so you need

00:48:50something that

00:48:50can do that

00:48:51in a semi

00:48:52controlled fashion

00:48:53to give

00:48:54to follow

00:48:54contours

00:48:55and increase

00:48:56your

00:48:56side grip

00:48:58because we

00:49:00know

00:49:00that when

00:49:01a motorcycle

00:49:02is made

00:49:02with an

00:49:03extremely

00:49:03stiff

00:49:04steering head

00:49:05that it

00:49:08is likely

00:49:08to have

00:49:10little

00:49:10rider

00:49:11feel

00:49:11and

00:49:13when

00:49:14talking

00:49:16about

00:49:16Ducati's

00:49:17carbon fiber

00:49:19combined

00:49:20airbox

00:49:21and

00:49:21Vincent

00:49:22style

00:49:23upper

00:49:24chassis

00:49:25Casey

00:49:30Stoner

00:49:30said

00:49:31on that

00:49:33one

00:49:33he said

00:49:35you're

00:49:37in the

00:49:37corner

00:49:37and

00:49:39analysis

00:49:40afterward

00:49:41reveals

00:49:42that

00:49:43all

00:49:44measured

00:49:44variables

00:49:46are the

00:49:46same as

00:49:47they were

00:49:47for the

00:49:48previous

00:49:48three

00:49:48laps

00:49:49and

00:49:50for no

00:49:50discernible

00:49:51reason

00:49:51you're

00:49:52eating

00:49:52gravel

00:49:53no

00:49:55warning

00:49:56down

00:49:57you go

00:49:58and

00:50:00of course

00:50:00the most

00:50:01ignominious

00:50:01is the

00:50:02road grader

00:50:02orientation

00:50:03where you're

00:50:04sliding

00:50:04backwards

00:50:04with your

00:50:06helmet

00:50:07scraping

00:50:07gravel

00:50:08into your

00:50:08face

00:50:09Catalonia

00:50:091998

00:50:11Kawasaki

00:50:14ZX6

00:50:14in the

00:50:15rain

00:50:15backwards

00:50:15off

00:50:16go ahead

00:50:17into the

00:50:18stadium

00:50:18section

00:50:18yes

00:50:20and

00:50:21previous

00:50:24to that

00:50:24the

00:50:25RC30

00:50:26whichever

00:50:28version

00:50:28because

00:50:29they

00:50:29constantly

00:50:30change

00:50:30these

00:50:31things

00:50:31had

00:50:34a very

00:50:35stiff

00:50:35front end

00:50:36you look

00:50:36at the

00:50:36chassis

00:50:37and you

00:50:37can see

00:50:37why

00:50:38because

00:50:38the

00:50:38chassis

00:50:39beams

00:50:39come up

00:50:40towards

00:50:40the

00:50:40steering

00:50:41head

00:50:41and

00:50:42they

00:50:42form

00:50:43this

00:50:44sort

00:50:45of

00:50:45steamer

00:50:46trunk

00:50:46with the

00:50:47steering

00:50:47head

00:50:48in the

00:50:48middle

00:50:48of it

00:50:48it

00:50:48all

00:50:49looks

00:50:49bullet

00:50:50resistant

00:50:51and

00:50:52it

00:50:54was

00:50:54able

00:50:55to win

00:50:55a couple

00:50:56of

00:50:56world

00:50:57superbike

00:50:57titles

00:50:58because

00:50:58it

00:50:58accelerated

00:50:59when

00:51:00Ducati's

00:51:01big

00:51:01V-twin

00:51:02had so

00:51:03little

00:51:04mid-range

00:51:04that it

00:51:05had to

00:51:05be ridden

00:51:05in

00:51:06corner

00:51:06speed

00:51:06style

00:51:07but

00:51:09who

00:51:09to

00:51:09thunk

00:51:10it

00:51:10because

00:51:11we

00:51:12all

00:51:12think

00:51:13of

00:51:13a

00:51:13big

00:51:14V-twin

00:51:15as being

00:51:15this

00:51:15muscular

00:51:16thing

00:51:16with

00:51:17broad

00:51:17power

00:51:17but

00:51:18not

00:51:19at

00:51:19that

00:51:19time

00:51:19just

00:51:21how

00:51:21it

00:51:21turned

00:51:22out

00:51:22so

00:51:23I

00:51:26feel

00:51:26that

00:51:27Yamaha

00:51:30must

00:51:30rethink

00:51:31everything

00:51:32that

00:51:33they're

00:51:33doing

00:51:33and

00:51:35seek

00:51:35something

00:51:36that

00:51:36but

00:51:37of course

00:51:37the

00:51:38problem

00:51:38is

00:51:39Ducati

00:51:40knows

00:51:40what

00:51:41they

00:51:41have

00:51:42or

00:51:43do

00:51:44they

00:51:44because

00:51:45back

00:51:46when

00:51:46Preziosi

00:51:47was

00:51:48engineer

00:51:49in

00:51:49Ducati

00:51:50Corsa

00:51:51they

00:51:55gave

00:51:55up

00:51:56on

00:51:56the

00:51:57trellis

00:51:57frame

00:51:57of

00:51:59Massimo

00:52:00Tamborini

00:52:00and

00:52:01they

00:52:01went

00:52:02instantly

00:52:02all

00:52:03of the

00:52:04way

00:52:04to

00:52:04full

00:52:05maximum

00:52:05rigidity

00:52:06with

00:52:06no

00:52:07side

00:52:07give

00:52:08in

00:52:08the

00:52:08steering

00:52:09head

00:52:09whatsoever

00:52:10so

00:52:11that

00:52:12tells

00:52:12me

00:52:12that

00:52:13they

00:52:13didn't

00:52:14know

00:52:14that

00:52:15what

00:52:16they

00:52:16had

00:52:17worked

00:52:17superbly

00:52:18up to

00:52:18the

00:52:18point

00:52:19that

00:52:19Casey

00:52:20Stoner

00:52:20said

00:52:21on

00:52:22that

00:52:22one

00:52:23I

00:52:24can't

00:52:24hit

00:52:24the

00:52:24same

00:52:25place

00:52:25in

00:52:25the

00:52:25corner

00:52:26two

00:52:26laps

00:52:27running

00:52:27because

00:52:28it's

00:52:29weaving

00:52:29and

00:52:30it's

00:52:31flexible

00:52:31and

00:52:32it's

00:52:32just

00:52:32the

00:52:33tires

00:52:33have

00:52:34won

00:52:34the

00:52:35chassis

00:52:36is

00:52:36okay

00:52:37whatever

00:52:38you

00:52:39say

00:52:39and

00:52:40it's

00:52:43all

00:52:43very

00:52:43well

00:52:43to

00:52:43talk

00:52:44about

00:52:44these

00:52:44things

00:52:45but

00:52:45to

00:52:46get

00:52:46out

00:52:46there

00:52:46and

00:52:47make

00:52:47all

00:52:48the

00:52:48measurements

00:52:48and

00:52:49listen

00:52:49to

00:52:49all

00:52:50the

00:52:50riders

00:52:50can

00:52:52you

00:52:52imagine

00:52:52an

00:52:53engineer

00:52:53has

00:52:54been

00:52:54to

00:52:54all

00:52:54of

00:52:55this

00:52:55engineering

00:52:55school

00:52:56stuff

00:52:56and

00:52:56he's

00:52:57done

00:52:57the

00:52:57math

00:52:58and

00:52:58he's

00:52:59thermodynamics

00:53:00and he's

00:53:01got it

00:53:01all

00:53:01down

00:53:02and

00:53:02then

00:53:03a

00:53:03rider

00:53:03comes

00:53:04and

00:53:04says

00:53:04holds

00:53:05his

00:53:05hands

00:53:05up

00:53:06to

00:53:06imaginary

00:53:06handlebars

00:53:07and says

00:53:07yeah

00:53:08in turn

00:53:10eight

00:53:11it's

00:53:12kind

00:53:12of

00:53:12well

00:53:13you

00:53:13know

00:53:14I'm

00:53:15sorry

00:53:16but

00:53:16I

00:53:17don't

00:53:17know

00:53:17all

00:53:20the

00:53:20motions

00:53:21that

00:53:21was

00:53:21a

00:53:21big

00:53:22thing

00:53:22for

00:53:22a

00:53:22while

00:53:22we

00:53:23were

00:53:23all

00:53:23getting

00:53:23these

00:53:24short

00:53:24form

00:53:24videos

00:53:25out

00:53:25on

00:53:25the

00:53:26socials

00:53:27of

00:53:27riders

00:53:28going

00:53:29like

00:53:29chop

00:53:30chop

00:53:30and

00:53:31knife

00:53:32in

00:53:32the

00:53:32front

00:53:32and

00:53:33all

00:53:33the

00:53:33crossed

00:53:34up

00:53:34arms

00:53:34and

00:53:35everything

00:53:35that

00:53:35happens

00:53:36it's

00:53:36an

00:53:36interesting

00:53:37language

00:53:37that's

00:53:38one of

00:53:40the great

00:53:40things for

00:53:40great

00:53:41riders

00:53:41is that

00:53:41ability

00:53:42to come

00:53:42in

00:53:42and

00:53:43work

00:53:44together

00:53:45with an

00:53:45engineer

00:53:45to figure

00:53:46out

00:53:46what's

00:53:47at the

00:53:47heart

00:53:48of

00:53:48what's

00:53:49happening

00:53:49that you

00:53:49don't

00:53:49like

00:53:50and

00:53:51gosh

00:53:53it's

00:53:53been

00:53:53so

00:53:53many

00:53:53different

00:53:54ways

00:53:54some

00:53:55of

00:53:55the

00:53:55riders

00:53:55will

00:53:56come

00:53:56in

00:53:56and

00:53:56say

00:53:56I

00:53:56need

00:53:57a

00:53:57couple

00:53:57more

00:53:57clicks

00:53:58of

00:54:00bike

00:54:00doing

00:54:01lots

00:54:02of

00:54:03different

00:54:03ways

00:54:04of

00:54:04going

00:54:04about

00:54:05it

00:54:05so

00:54:08it's

00:54:08I

00:54:10suspect

00:54:10that

00:54:11Yamaha

00:54:12have

00:54:12gone

00:54:13down

00:54:13a

00:54:14line

00:54:15of

00:54:15development

00:54:15with

00:54:16chassis

00:54:17and

00:54:18engine

00:54:18because

00:54:19they're

00:54:19always

00:54:19partners

00:54:20you

00:54:21can't

00:54:21just

00:54:21take

00:54:22one

00:54:22engine

00:54:22out

00:54:22and

00:54:23put

00:54:23another

00:54:23one

00:54:23in

00:54:24and

00:54:24it'll

00:54:24handle

00:54:25like

00:54:25it

00:54:25did

00:54:25before

00:54:26because

00:54:26handling

00:54:27is

00:54:27so

00:54:28intimately

00:54:28connected

00:54:29with

00:54:29the

00:54:29nature

00:54:30of

00:54:30the

00:54:31torque

00:54:31delivery

00:54:31and

00:54:34it's

00:54:38it

00:54:40looks

00:54:40hopeless

00:54:40on the

00:54:42outside

00:54:42but

00:54:43I

00:54:43don't

00:54:43doubt

00:54:44that

00:54:44Yamaha

00:54:45will

00:54:45get

00:54:45there

00:54:46this

00:54:47is

00:54:47especially

00:54:47troubling

00:54:48to me

00:54:48because

00:54:49I

00:54:50a lot

00:54:51of the

00:54:51things

00:54:51that I

00:54:52learned

00:54:52about

00:54:52racing

00:54:53I

00:54:53learned

00:54:53from

00:54:54running

00:54:55Yamaha

00:54:55production

00:54:56racers

00:54:56starting

00:54:57with the

00:54:58TD1s

00:54:59and then

00:54:59on

00:54:59into

00:55:00the

00:55:00TZ250

00:55:02and then

00:55:02finally

00:55:03TZ750

00:55:04take a

00:55:04drink

00:55:04folks

00:55:05yep

00:55:06and

00:55:07so I

00:55:10have a

00:55:10kind of

00:55:12underlying

00:55:12respect

00:55:14for their

00:55:16history

00:55:17but when

00:55:18you see

00:55:19the

00:55:19rider

00:55:20saying the

00:55:20same

00:55:21thing

00:55:21year

00:55:21after

00:55:21year

00:55:22when

00:55:24asked

00:55:24how are

00:55:25the

00:55:25preseason

00:55:25tests

00:55:26going

00:55:26at

00:55:27Sepang

00:55:27and

00:55:28he

00:55:29looks

00:55:29like

00:55:29well

00:55:32it

00:55:34hasn't

00:55:35changed

00:55:36much

00:55:36and

00:55:39the

00:55:39higher

00:55:41ups

00:55:41are

00:55:41going

00:55:41that

00:55:43little

00:55:43bastard

00:55:43I'll

00:55:45get even

00:55:45with him

00:55:45and

00:55:47it's

00:55:49it's

00:55:50inexplicable

00:55:51but there

00:55:54is this

00:55:54that I

00:55:56have

00:55:56noticed

00:55:56and that

00:55:57is

00:55:57that

00:55:58manufacturers

00:55:59have a

00:56:01history of

00:56:02going into

00:56:02a slump

00:56:03and staying

00:56:04there as

00:56:05if they

00:56:06liked it

00:56:06now

00:56:08Honda

00:56:10did that

00:56:11in the

00:56:12early years

00:56:13of the

00:56:13century

00:56:14in 2003

00:56:17Ducati

00:56:17came with

00:56:18all this

00:56:19horsepower

00:56:19and

00:56:20Honda

00:56:22were terribly

00:56:23offended

00:56:23because

00:56:24there was

00:56:25a gentleman's

00:56:26agreement

00:56:26that

00:56:27nothing

00:56:28above

00:56:28superbike

00:56:29level

00:56:29would be

00:56:29used

00:56:30in

00:56:30MotoGP

00:56:31and

00:56:32Ducati

00:56:33just came

00:56:33with

00:56:34mad

00:56:35power

00:56:35and

00:56:36Loris

00:56:37Caporasi

00:56:37and

00:56:38later

00:56:39with

00:56:41others

00:56:42and they

00:56:43so

00:56:44Honda

00:56:45just

00:56:45horsepower

00:56:46you want

00:56:47horsepower

00:56:47they went

00:56:48to the

00:56:48back of

00:56:49the room

00:56:49where these

00:56:49big

00:56:50pails

00:56:50of

00:56:50horsepower

00:56:51they're

00:56:52all

00:56:52marked

00:56:52triple

00:56:53X

00:56:53quad

00:56:54X

00:56:55and they

00:56:55dumped

00:56:56horsepower

00:56:56into the

00:56:57thing

00:56:57until it

00:56:57didn't

00:56:57handle

00:56:58very

00:56:59well

00:57:00and

00:57:02you could

00:57:02see this

00:57:03the riders

00:57:03struggling

00:57:04with these

00:57:05things

00:57:05they had

00:57:05a lot

00:57:05of

00:57:05power

00:57:06but

00:57:07nothing

00:57:08you could

00:57:09use

00:57:09so

00:57:09Yamaha

00:57:10who were

00:57:12still

00:57:13sticking

00:57:13to their

00:57:14get it

00:57:16off the

00:57:17corners

00:57:17and think

00:57:17about the

00:57:18straightaway

00:57:18if there's

00:57:19time

00:57:19methodology

00:57:23won a

00:57:24bunch of

00:57:24championships

00:57:25and it

00:57:26wasn't

00:57:27until

00:57:28mid-season

00:57:302010

00:57:31and the

00:57:32Hondas

00:57:32began to

00:57:33look

00:57:33well

00:57:34Pedrosa

00:57:35began to

00:57:35look almost

00:57:36graceful

00:57:37like he

00:57:37was not

00:57:38riding an

00:57:39electric

00:57:39bar

00:57:39bull

00:57:40and I

00:57:42looked at

00:57:43that and

00:57:43I thought

00:57:44they're

00:57:45coming back

00:57:46they'll be

00:57:46here

00:57:47well what

00:57:48happened

00:57:49next year

00:57:49Stoner went

00:57:50to Honda

00:57:51he won

00:57:5210 races

00:57:52and the

00:57:53championship

00:57:53just as he'd

00:57:54done at

00:57:55Ducati in

00:57:562007

00:57:56so

00:57:57the engine

00:58:01influences

00:58:02handling

00:58:02the rider

00:58:03influences

00:58:03handling

00:58:04the chassis

00:58:05the tires

00:58:06get a

00:58:08handle on

00:58:09it

00:58:09I don't

00:58:10think it's

00:58:10going to

00:58:10be easy

00:58:11because

00:58:12unless we

00:58:14say

00:58:14and this

00:58:15is tempting

00:58:15that for

00:58:17three years

00:58:18they've come

00:58:19to the

00:58:19pre-season

00:58:19tests

00:58:20with

00:58:20I don't

00:58:22see anything

00:58:22new

00:58:23unless that

00:58:27means

00:58:27well we

00:58:28we had

00:58:28to cut

00:58:29back

00:58:29spinning

00:58:29so

00:58:32then you

00:58:33look at

00:58:33the end

00:58:33of the

00:58:34handlebars

00:58:35to see

00:58:35if the

00:58:36handlebar

00:58:36grip is

00:58:37sort of

00:58:37crushed

00:58:38from being

00:58:38leaned

00:58:39against the

00:58:39wall in

00:58:40an unused

00:58:41corridor

00:58:42put some

00:58:43new grips

00:58:44on that

00:58:44that's the

00:58:452025

00:58:45now

00:58:46I don't

00:58:49I don't

00:58:50think this

00:58:50is the

00:58:51case

00:58:51but it

00:58:52is something

00:58:52that people

00:58:53think of

00:58:53if there's

00:58:55little change

00:58:56so Honda

00:58:58had a

00:58:59period of

00:59:00being in

00:59:01the wilderness

00:59:02Ducati

00:59:03had a period

00:59:04of being in

00:59:04the wilderness

00:59:04after 2007

00:59:06each year

00:59:08Stoner won

00:59:09fewer races

00:59:10now you can

00:59:11say oh well

00:59:12he had an

00:59:13illness and

00:59:14he you know

00:59:15this and that

00:59:16okay but

00:59:17they won

00:59:18fewer races

00:59:18every year

00:59:19and

00:59:21they seemed

00:59:24to be

00:59:24satisfied to

00:59:25finish

00:59:25sixth

00:59:26seventh

00:59:27or eighth

00:59:28it went

00:59:29on for

00:59:29years and

00:59:30they were

00:59:30thinking

00:59:30there has

00:59:32to be some

00:59:33kind of

00:59:34institutional

00:59:35policy going

00:59:36on here

00:59:37we do not

00:59:38mess with the

00:59:38swing arm

00:59:39pivot because

00:59:40it's where

00:59:40the maestro

00:59:41put it

00:59:41or something

00:59:43like that

00:59:43and remember

00:59:45yes

00:59:46yeah when

00:59:47did Ducati

00:59:48pull

00:59:48D'Alinea

00:59:50in

00:59:50well

00:59:51because

00:59:54that

00:59:54because

00:59:55what we

00:59:56heard

00:59:57what we

00:59:57heard about

00:59:58that

00:59:58what we

00:59:59heard about

01:00:00that is

01:00:00that he

01:00:00said

01:00:01when he

01:00:02was first

01:00:02the recruiting

01:00:04effort was

01:00:05made

01:00:06he said

01:00:06do I get

01:00:07a free

01:00:07hand

01:00:07well

01:00:09well we

01:00:13just wanted

01:00:13to show

01:00:14the board

01:00:14of directors

01:00:15that we

01:00:15were taking

01:00:16a new

01:00:16direction

01:00:17but no

01:00:18you don't

01:00:18get a free

01:00:18hand

01:00:19okay

01:00:19see you

01:00:21later

01:00:21and then

01:00:23more

01:00:24doldrums

01:00:25passed

01:00:26undistinguished

01:00:28finishes

01:00:28why are

01:00:30they satisfied

01:00:31with this

01:00:32then

01:00:36they made

01:00:38a second

01:00:38attempt

01:00:39this is

01:00:39hearsay

01:00:40I hope

01:00:40you understand

01:00:41to recruit

01:00:42Mr.

01:00:43D'Alinea

01:00:44and they

01:00:45said

01:00:45okay

01:00:46free

01:00:47hand

01:00:47so I

01:00:49suspect

01:00:49that what

01:00:50he did

01:00:50was

01:00:50he called

01:00:53for

01:00:54the

01:00:55institutional

01:00:56memorials

01:00:58to pass

01:00:59maestros

01:01:00should be

01:01:01erased

01:01:01and

01:01:02all

01:01:03assumptions

01:01:04questioned

01:01:04and

01:01:06did

01:01:07what

01:01:08people

01:01:11do

01:01:12as

01:01:12team

01:01:13managers

01:01:13they

01:01:14put

01:01:15good

01:01:15people

01:01:16in

01:01:16charge

01:01:16and

01:01:17let

01:01:17them

01:01:17do

01:01:17what

01:01:18they

01:01:18were

01:01:18capable

01:01:19of

01:01:19like

01:01:23that

01:01:23when I

01:01:24was told

01:01:25by a

01:01:26crusty old

01:01:26retired

01:01:27crew chief

01:01:28air force

01:01:28guy

01:01:29one year

01:01:31we got

01:01:31a CO

01:01:32who

01:01:33for some

01:01:33reason

01:01:34thought

01:01:34every

01:01:35person

01:01:36has a

01:01:37brain

01:01:37and he

01:01:39told his

01:01:39service people

01:01:40if you can

01:01:41think of a

01:01:42better procedure

01:01:43if you can

01:01:43save time

01:01:44or money

01:01:45let me know

01:01:47we'll write it up

01:01:48and share it

01:01:50and he said

01:01:51that year

01:01:52we had

01:01:52we won

01:01:53so many

01:01:54awards

01:01:54well

01:01:56this is

01:01:59another area

01:02:00it doesn't

01:02:00have to do

01:02:01with handling

01:02:01doesn't have

01:02:02to do

01:02:02with

01:02:02horsepower

01:02:03it has

01:02:04to do

01:02:04with how

01:02:05quickly

01:02:05and how

01:02:06well

01:02:06you can

01:02:07respond

01:02:07when the

01:02:08motorcycle

01:02:09doesn't

01:02:09work

01:02:10because if

01:02:13you've told

01:02:13people

01:02:14I remember

01:02:14talking to

01:02:15the late

01:02:15Warren

01:02:16willing

01:02:16he said

01:02:16I

01:02:17this was

01:02:18before the

01:02:19delinea

01:02:19period

01:02:20he said

01:02:22when I

01:02:24look at

01:02:24the swing

01:02:25arm pivot

01:02:25it's in

01:02:27the wrong

01:02:27place

01:02:27in my

01:02:28book

01:02:28but

01:02:30he said

01:02:30no one's

01:02:31interested

01:02:32in listening

01:02:33to that

01:02:33so

01:02:36this is

01:02:38a tough

01:02:38one

01:02:38when you've

01:02:39been on

01:02:40top

01:02:40it's hard

01:02:42to use

01:02:43the management

01:02:45system

01:02:45that

01:02:47maintained

01:02:48that

01:02:49on top

01:02:49status

01:02:50to do

01:02:51a comeback

01:02:51because it

01:02:52involves

01:02:53eating

01:02:54crow

01:02:55four and

01:02:57twenty

01:02:57blackbirds

01:02:58baked in

01:02:59a pie

01:02:59you gotta

01:03:00kill your

01:03:00babies

01:03:01that's

01:03:01the thing

01:03:01yeah

01:03:02so

01:03:03this is

01:03:05not a

01:03:06simple

01:03:06thing

01:03:06they're

01:03:06not

01:03:07going to

01:03:07put a

01:03:08V4

01:03:08engine

01:03:08in it

01:03:09hey

01:03:09the

01:03:09thing's

01:03:09a

01:03:10missile

01:03:10well

01:03:10we hope

01:03:11that's

01:03:11the

01:03:12thing

01:03:12that

01:03:12the

01:03:13V4

01:03:13has

01:03:13brought

01:03:13to

01:03:14you know

01:03:14the

01:03:16paddock

01:03:16and

01:03:16Yamaha

01:03:17fans

01:03:18one

01:03:19on

01:03:20Monday

01:03:20they

01:03:21were

01:03:211.2

01:03:22seconds

01:03:22off

01:03:23the

01:03:23pace

01:03:23which

01:03:26is

01:03:26a

01:03:26heartbeat

01:03:27a

01:03:28couple

01:03:28clicks

01:03:28here

01:03:28a

01:03:29couple

01:03:29clicks

01:03:29there

01:03:29you

01:03:30know

01:03:30now

01:03:31yes

01:03:32sure

01:03:32they

01:03:32may

01:03:33come

01:03:33back

01:03:34and

01:03:34find

01:03:34the

01:03:35sweet

01:03:35spot

01:03:35but

01:03:37one

01:03:39crew

01:03:39chief

01:03:40described

01:03:40the

01:03:40sweet

01:03:41spot

01:03:41to

01:03:41me

01:03:41he

01:03:42said

01:03:42you're

01:03:43in

01:03:43a

01:03:43dark

01:03:44warehouse

01:03:44you

01:03:46can't

01:03:46see

01:03:46anything

01:03:47you

01:03:48have

01:03:48a

01:03:49golf

01:03:49ball

01:03:49and

01:03:50a

01:03:52club

01:03:52and

01:03:54you

01:03:54know

01:03:54there's

01:03:55a

01:03:55hole

01:03:55in

01:03:56the

01:03:56floor

01:03:57your

01:03:58job

01:03:58is

01:03:58to

01:03:58get

01:03:59the

01:03:59ball

01:03:59in

01:04:00the

01:04:00hole

01:04:00there's

01:04:01no

01:04:01gradient

01:04:02that

01:04:02goes

01:04:02down

01:04:03oh

01:04:03this

01:04:03is

01:04:03the

01:04:04way

01:04:04to

01:04:04the

01:04:04hole

01:04:04it's

01:04:05like

01:04:05where

01:04:06is

01:04:06it

01:04:06well

01:04:09you

01:04:10got

01:04:10to

01:04:10try

01:04:10a

01:04:11bunch

01:04:11of

01:04:11stuff

01:04:11and

01:04:14that

01:04:15can

01:04:15be

01:04:15fruitless

01:04:16for

01:04:16a

01:04:16long

01:04:16time

01:04:17when

01:04:18I

01:04:18have

01:04:18read

01:04:19the

01:04:19developmental

01:04:20history

01:04:20of the

01:04:21air

01:04:21cooled

01:04:21radial

01:04:22engine

01:04:22they

01:04:23had

01:04:23so

01:04:23many

01:04:24failures

01:04:24at

01:04:24first

01:04:25I

01:04:26thought

01:04:26to

01:04:26myself

01:04:26I

01:04:29would

01:04:29have

01:04:29given

01:04:29up

01:04:30because

01:04:30this

01:04:31just

01:04:31wasn't

01:04:32going

01:04:32anywhere

01:04:33but

01:04:34the

01:04:35people

01:04:35on

01:04:36top

01:04:36were

01:04:36saying

01:04:37keep

01:04:37at

01:04:37it

01:04:38as

01:04:38long

01:04:39as

01:04:39we're

01:04:40funded

01:04:40we're

01:04:41going

01:04:41to

01:04:41look

01:04:42for

01:04:42answers

01:04:42and

01:04:43eventually

01:04:43they

01:04:44found

01:04:44them

01:04:44and

01:04:46they

01:04:46built

01:04:46hundreds

01:04:46of

01:04:47thousands

01:04:47of

01:04:47wonderful

01:04:48engines

01:04:48so

01:04:50a

01:04:52many

01:04:54sided

01:04:55problem

01:04:56and

01:04:56we

01:04:57hope

01:04:57that

01:04:58they

01:04:58get

01:04:59the

01:04:59ball

01:04:59in

01:04:59the

01:04:59cup

01:05:00I'd

01:05:03love

01:05:03to see

01:05:04it

01:05:04the

01:05:04first

01:05:05V4

01:05:06Grand Prix

01:05:06bike

01:05:06from

01:05:07Yamaha

01:05:07since

01:05:072002

01:05:08YZR500

01:05:09OWL9

01:05:11I think

01:05:11they

01:05:12called

01:05:12it

01:05:12and

01:05:14certainly

01:05:17change is

01:05:17an exciting

01:05:18prospect

01:05:18and

01:05:19they're

01:05:21going to

01:05:21have

01:05:21private

01:05:21tests

01:05:22supposedly

01:05:22top

01:05:23rack's

01:05:23going to

01:05:23get

01:05:23a

01:05:24crack

01:05:24at

01:05:24the

01:05:25V4

01:05:25well

01:05:27a

01:05:28fresh

01:05:28look

01:05:28fresh

01:05:29look

01:05:29it's

01:05:31it's

01:05:32a good

01:05:33thing

01:05:33yeah

01:05:34be

01:05:34exciting

01:05:35well

01:05:36thanks

01:05:36for

01:05:36listening

01:05:36folks

01:05:37that's

01:05:37it

01:05:37for

01:05:38the

01:05:38second

01:05:38world

01:05:38podcast

01:05:39this

01:05:39week

01:05:39check us

01:05:41out in the

01:05:41comments

01:05:41we'll see you

01:05:42there

01:05:42and we'll catch you

01:05:43next time

01:05:44we'll see you

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