New Delhi: In an exclusive interview with actor Pratik Gandhi and Sunny Hinduja, where they discussed the upcoming spy series ‘Sare Jahaan Se Achha’. The actor shared his experience playing a spy and the challenges of portraying complex emotions. He emphasized the importance of authenticity and research in playing such a role. After that, they also discussed the difference between playing a historical figure like Gandhi and a fictional character like Vishnu. He highlighted the importance of exploring different characters and genres for an actor's growth and longevity. In the last, they conclude by sharing their thoughts on the biggest enemy and the importance of channelizing one's mind for the greater good.
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00:00So hi guys welcome to INS. Thank you. Amazing series. I didn't get much to watch but you guys are awesome. Thank you. Thank you. And what a casting. I start with casting. You've got Rajat Kapoor. I would call him the textbook of acting. It's amazing. How is it to work with somebody like him?
00:17It's amazing. A lot to learn. And that minimalistic approach towards performance and all. That's brilliant you know. He doesn't do much. And that's the biggest thing that he does. Every time whenever I perform with him. Very easy to work with. The way he interprets lines, dialogues, scenes. Between the lines also. All those things are like he actually flows like water.
00:42But did you get a chance to like share screen or speak to him? Share screen space to of course nahi huo ha. Screen space to nahi share kar paaya. But definitely interact kiya tha. I just love him as a performer. He just camouflages himself into the character. And he is just cow. You don't see anybody else. I think he does it brilliantly. And he looks effortless but I think there's a lot of work that goes behind. And he does it. Which we don't know. I want to know that.
01:11But he is absolutely marvelous. Also like I said the show is like a cerebral chess match. It's like an intellectual war. You know it's not dishoom dishoom or guns blazing right. But how much of you or you guys had to like prepare yourself for with the history and you know real politic of India Pakistan beyond the script. Because I'm sure it's I know it's very it's not on true events. But there must have been some kind of preparing preparation behind what you did.
01:39So the biggest preparation as an actor that I had to do was to understand the psyche of a spy. Which obviously we do for every character that we create. But here it was difficult because we've never seen a real world spy ever.
01:53And the kind of spies that we have seen on screen were larger than life almost like superheroes and all. Which is not the case in real world. And here we were trying to create a real world scenario for them. Their lives. The way they go through the moral dilemma and complex emotions.
02:11They can't share everything with everybody. You know. A lot of things that they know which they can't even share with their wives or their husbands or the friends or family members.
02:23They don't even know whether they love them or they are just there as a part of the job. So these are very very complex things to portray on screen.
02:33Why would you?
02:34Why would you?
02:35Yeah I mean Ably said because you know playing a spy first of all in itself is a big responsibility. I feel a spy is no less than a javan who's probably fighting at a border.
02:51But they are fighting you know intellectually. And they are also doing the same role of stopping a war or any big mishap to happen. That's their biggest job.
03:06And the worst thing is that if they have done 10 jobs, but if they have done one, then you are zero in your job. So you don't have any chances.
03:16This is one take. This is not a film. This is a theater. So they get one take. And they have complexity that you can't think about.
03:26You can't think about it. You can't think about it. You can't think about it. You can't think about it. You can't think about it.
03:36Every moment of your life, every day of your life is you have to be vigilant all the time.
03:43I mean one can't be angry because anywhere from a small hole, a small hole.
03:50So it's basically that other than being from different countries, to produce a different country, to research their own, to research their own, to research their own, to research their own,
04:00to know how they operate, to the 1970s era, how-how culture, and other things.
04:08mentally as Pratik also said it is turmoil you can't even imagine ki kya chal sakta hai uske dimaag mein
04:17so all these things was very very difficult to you know achieve and
04:21koshish yeh thi ki jitna such jitna ho sakhe jitna kareeb koshish kar sakhe
04:27and at the same time I had also prepared in a way ki yeh inke weapons to inke indriya hi hai
04:34inke dekh rahe hain suung rahe hain kya kya matlab it has to be 10x on all levels
04:41to tabhi aadmi ka you know woh aapne kaam ke liye bakhoop rahe ga aur yeh chhote stakes nahin hai
04:47yeh sida nation pe apke jo karodon logo ki jaan pe kheel ke kar rahe hain
04:54to you have to believe that and live that responsibility
04:58aap dono spy play kar rahe hain and spies are you know they work in the shadows like you guys said
05:03they are faceless nameless often abandoned yeah if they are caught yeah and right now when we are like
05:09when we talk about spy series or movies surge hai it's time it's high time to actually celebrate them
05:15do you agree absolutely we should celebrate them knowing one thing that you know today we are in our
05:23houses whatever that we are doing happily somewhere somebody is living under that threat and in the extreme
05:30condition trying to make the country safe so their celebrations their successes are never celebrated
05:37not supposed to be right so yeah so by celebrating them we are actually celebrating those successes which
05:46were never celebrated i think yeah yeah i agree i mean uh it's a it's i think homage for all the spies
05:54you know oh those have done such good work without you know caring about their personal interests and
06:01putting their country first putting not even their family and these people who have you know valiantly
06:07bravery allowed their family members to serve nation you know selflessly and putting the country first
06:15then them or then anybody else so it is it should be yeah it's high time we should celebrate yeah
06:21also uh independence day all right it's the right time to get this series out but when we see
06:25whenever there's like independence day or republic day we do see a lot of uh we do see a lot of uh
06:31patriotic theme national national themed projects coming out you know at a time when we have like so much of
06:37it coming out how does one move away from the cliches we've seen before yeah it's it is very very
06:45important uh to move away from cliches and take a fresh take you know have a fresh take on on the similar
06:53stuff maybe more so because you know the more you want younger audience to get involved with you to get
07:01engaged in the storytelling uh it is required to reinvent your style of storytelling this kind of
07:08stories you know every stories there are like there's there's a saying you know there are around few
07:12types of stories all over the world every time you reinterpret or you find a smaller uh space where
07:19you can create a new emotion and then tell the story from that angle so that's what we are also trying
07:25here we have seen ample amount of spy world spy thrillers but this is for the first time that we are
07:31exploring human side of spy and that's a fresh thing yeah yeah it is also filmmaking is a magical thing you
07:45you know uh you know uh you know uh yeah cliche bhi ho sakta yeah kamal bhi ho sakta but uh achi baat
07:51yeh ki yeh joh padhane se script ke padhane se lekar execution tak uh it's meh cliche ka cv nahi tha
08:00aur uh the way it is executed the way it is uh from writing to direction to camera to everything to music uh
08:11uh um i am i am i am sure you would uh uh i am sure you watch three episodes it will not go any way
08:18near being a cliche because uh as patik said ki uh in ki sirf hum log functioning nahi dikha rahe hai
08:26in kejo dilemmas hotena actually generally what they go through and itna achse se likha gaya hai ki
08:33wo cheez hai aapko edge of the seat pe le hati hai ki oh my god what will happen this happened why this happened
08:39toh is tariqe ka joh human drama uh joh aapko dkhaya jata hai aur har ek ke saath aap relate karte hai
08:46toh wo tab wo cheez joh hoti na woh wider jati hai aur wo cliche ke us mein nahi aati hai
08:52toh i think that is the usp of our show and uh it will it is not only just india pakistan but many
08:59countries and spies of spy network of all over the world uh joh humare se connected hai uske us level
09:05pe baat cheet ho rhi hai toh zara yeh zoom out ho ke ho rhi hai cheez hai toh jab hum tariqe se dekhenge
09:10detail mein dekhenge layers pe layers parat parat kulti jayegi toh samaj me aayega ki kitni kubhsurti sakiya
09:16but toh is genre it's loved across all ages it's loved by it's loved universal yeah but when it comes to
09:23independence day republic day hameh zyadha feel hota hai sa kiyo?
09:26asa hai na dekhe jayse hum paat puja ki baat kare hai so toh closer to the festive season you tend to do that more right
09:34because of the overall energy of the overall society and the countries such similarly for our two big big national festivals
09:4215th august 26th january the overall emotion is such where you would tend to celebrate these stories and their lives
09:49haa matlab dohi din milte hai agar selebrate karni kalei humare desh ko
09:56of course you thankfully kuch kuch is tariqe ki cheeze hai you can feel
10:02jab mein national anthem sunta hoon theatres mein yaa is tariqe ki cheeze hoote hai you feel that
10:06and you want you know to do something for your country and you feel that patriotism
10:11toh hala ki kam hai do din but at least jo hai unko achse se celebrate kare hai toh wo feel aati hai
10:17wo maza hata hai wo jhanda agar ham leherate hai toh wo ek feeling hai
10:21toh wo feeling ko agar ham selebrate kare hai and if we depict you know such feelings through our medium also
10:29toh sone peh soha ka hai
10:30aur mein bola jau ki that you're playing the enemy in the show
10:34and often jab dhi ham log indopark ki baat karte hai we kind of demonize the enemy right
10:39so were you apprehensive on taking on the role ki highway
10:43achha ab mujhe ek toh aisa into park tension vayse hi hai
10:46ab mujhe ek or ek me ko enemy hi play karna hai
10:49toh was there kind of like stress in your mind
10:51achse rolo ki bhoat kamhi hai
10:53aur ek achse rolo ki liye 100 log kherde hai
10:56toh mein as an actor as a kalakar
10:59yeh nahi sosehta ki yeh role kiisa hai
11:01aaah kaha ka hai
11:03kis kaasht ka hai kis creed ka hai
11:05yeh role kiisa hai
11:07toh role toh akko ache hi laga hooga
11:09yeh aasi baad hai na
11:10kiya aapko agar krishna ki baat karmi hai
11:12toh kans aayenge na usma
11:13toh hum jab army ki baat kar rahe hai
11:15hum jab doh desho ke intelligence ki baat kar rahe hai
11:17toh apna desh ka intelligent samane kis se ladra hai woh bhi aayega
11:20toh kisi na kisi ko toh perform karna padega nahi
11:22toh hum badaayenge kiise hai
11:24but aap ki baat karit your role has a lot of stillness and that's you know he's sharp but
11:30jyase aapne bola human side bhi dikhaya hai
11:32toh romans ki baagir baat kare toh romans hai ya nahi hai
11:35mujhe toh nahi lagta personally jitna
11:37mahi vishnu ko jantah hon
11:38ke uske paas romans ke liye woh mind space hai
11:41I don't think he is wired that way
11:44kiunki uska motive hi alag hai life mein
11:48iska passion hi alag hai life mein
11:50toh chahkar bhi woh shayid aisa romance kuch kar nahi bayga saada
11:53afli's aapne bhi visse tura
11:56toh waha maata. Waha mtlaa mujhe lag nahi raha hai
11:58kiunki wos nga na uska guilt over power kar jataha
12:01iska romantic mood ko shayad
12:02but aapka koji affinity hai towards period
12:06waterproof perojects
12:08huv gyung hai shuru say scam ho gaya
12:10then there is fool hai you've done
12:12yeh aya and then gandhi has
12:14kya affinity hai upko?
12:16I don't know, when you're asking, I'm thinking that I've worked on a lot of these stories in the theatre as well.
12:22Because our ethiasik dharohar is so powerful, there are so many stories in our past.
12:29So, we enjoy exploring all the stories and we have a chance to get this opportunity, so why not?
12:35But what makes these periods so popular? Why is it so popular?
12:39I think there have been great stories, there have been great narratives, there have been great people
12:46who don't know about it. And I personally love biographies. And if they get the chance to get the opportunity to light in light,
12:55so it's like a great education in a very subtle way. The people who have done so great work in their lives and in their lives.
13:04So, I always feel it's a delight to see and there is a lot of generations who are living in Instagram,
13:11and there is a lot of balance.
13:14But you're right, actually, as many period dramas, there's a lot of fun to see.
13:18Because we are actually seeing how people used to react in certain situations and then draw parallels to your life.
13:25No, you learn a lot from these things.
13:29And actually, the gravitas, the thing that was before,
13:34But now, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. So, it's nice to have some sort of stop.
13:39So, it's nice to have some sort of stop.
13:41If you talk about it, Shoki, there is a lot of geopolitics, obviously.
13:44So, as an artist, are you guys, for self-awareness, how inclined are you towards geopolitics?
13:51A lot, I mean, through news, through a lot of things that are happening,
13:55be it in the world of business, in the world of entertainment, in the world of overall, you know,
14:01overall political scenario across the world.
14:03One wants to know what's happening, how people are thinking,
14:07why somebody is saying something, and what are the impacts, you know, in different parts of the world.
14:13It is very interesting. I find it very interesting.
14:15What about you?
14:16Yeah, I genuinely empathize over the fact that the kind of things that are happening.
14:25And it's important to know, and be aware,
14:29kis ki kya se hai, kis ki kya raya hai, or kya ho raha hai, or kya ho raha hai, or kya ho raha hai.
14:33It's very, very important to know in our current times, to understand what is actually happening.
14:40And I just feel, I just feel, pray and wish, ki, you know, let there be peace.
14:47You know, woh meri ichha hai. So, woh pata chalta hai, and you know, what I can do from my end,
14:55other than praying, what I can do as an individual, I try to do that.
14:59Shayad mein woh pray karoon, yaa kis kuch is tariqi ki stories bataon,
15:03jaisi ki agar hum humare series ki baat karein, to actually what their real task is to prevent wars,
15:12to prevent the calamities, to prevent the wrongdoings. So, woh kis vhi tariqai se ho,
15:18and that's what we also understand at the end of the day, how much peace is important.
15:23So, it is important to understand and do my bit at whatever level I can. So, for that you have to know.
15:29But like how you just said that, you know, you guys go through news and you keep yourself updated,
15:33but there's like how so much of content is available on social networking sites basically.
15:39Wohan per bhi itna news aata hai, how do you know which, what to read, what not to read,
15:43or how to understand what news is actually news?
15:46No, it's very difficult, extremely difficult right now.
15:50And forget about us, I am more worried about the younger generation, you know,
15:53because they have, they were born in the time of this hyper active social media and
16:00overdose of information. So, from that chaos, what to believe is very difficult, extremely difficult.
16:08And that's when you actually rely on your upbringing, on the, on the way you, you know,
16:15interpret something which is not written between the lines. And that needs a lot of training, I guess.
16:21So, only life can teach you these lessons.
16:23Yeah, I mean,
16:33I mean,
16:36so it is important to identify and know the right sources, but it is difficult for sure.
16:44But we have to be aware that
16:46that you should double check it and you should have there are sources there are right places
16:54to understand we need to find out I think the best answer is that one has to just understand
17:00the difference between information and knowledge this is a big gap every information that comes
17:07to you is not helping you add value to your knowledge so to actually identify and understand
17:15what is right what is wrong you better help yourself with books be better research and
17:21then understand I'm her forward her information ko soch lathai kya chai know it don't be intelligent
17:25be wise don't be a google journalist he is a google doctor he is a google doctor he is
17:30a google doctor he is a google doctor he is a google doctor how much of social media validation
17:37is important for you guys does it mean anything you guys are popular on social media look social
17:42media ke pros bhi hain cons bhi hain jho hummari industry hai jis tariqa se hum kaam kar rahe
17:50hummari ek baat pauchni bhi zaruri hai ki is tariqa ki cheezhe kar rahe is tariqa ka kaam
17:55kar rahe and it is like a zariyah you know pehle nahi thi is tariqa ki cheezhe whatsapps
18:00ho gaya ya facebook instagram ho gaya it's it's a nice way to connect to your people but at the
18:06same time you have to be wise as I said before ki what to take from there and what not to take
18:12from there there are many things which are not positive but definitely there are many
18:16things which are positive so you need to be wise to choose what you you know invest your
18:21time in but definitely I only look at the boons and I see that it's a great platform it's
18:29a great therapy sometimes you laugh bhot sari cheez hai is tari ke kya hain so I think it should
18:34be used to your benefit to each his own sabko apna apna dekhna hai and use it to the best
18:41and leave the rest for not needed ya hako kaasa lagta hai do you think social media validation
18:47is important no no that's not true social media validation me aisa hai social media is important
18:53for me as a tool to communicate because I am in that business where I need to communicate
18:57in fact any business would need it right now yeah you that's the biggest place where you
19:01you know that's the place where you can get the audience for all kind of products and
19:05everything so that way it is a very very useful tool other thing is the validation it matters
19:12when you you understand you are taking it from home you know joe mujhe bol raha hai joe mujhe
19:18criticize bhi kar raha hai ya joe mujhe meri tarif bhi kar raha hai mujhe wun donoh meinse
19:22selidhi raha hai kei taharif ko seriously li ho aur kis ki criticism ko siri li ho because
19:28everything doesnt make sense your filmography both of you is amazing and you guys are complete
19:34actors hapne sab kuch kara hao hai eek karikai sara genre's me dabble kar lia hai romance
19:38came last time that you know when actors would you know want to be like a part of a just just do romantic films or just do action films but right now actors are actually like you know we just do do romance film but right now we don't do romance
19:47part of a just do romantic films or just do action films but right now actors are actually
19:52like you know branching out and doing a lot of things. So how important is that or do
19:58you think that you know? No, no, it's like it's extremely important to be able to do
20:03multiple characters, various genres for the longevity of your character, of yourself as
20:09an actor. The moment you keep doing similar things, the people who are clapping for you,
20:15who are praising you for that, the same set of people will start criticizing you that
20:20he's doing the same thing. So it is very simple and very logical that one constantly
20:28re-evaluates, re-invents his or her own self and create different characters. I think that
20:34that's a wise thing to do for an actor. Yeah, I agree. I mean it's important to delve into
20:38different characters, different lives, different cultures. It is only helping me grow as a person
20:45because with each character, I learn a lot. And it's important to have that time for
20:51preparation and understand the character. And if you are doing one way, you will not get
20:58anything. You don't grow. You don't have to do two or three times. I agree that there are
21:04choices. But if you do it also, don't do it in a similar way. You have to reinvent and do it
21:11so differently that it doesn't look. But that's one thing. But it's God's blessing if I am able
21:18to get different roles, which by God's grace I am. And I am very, very grateful for that,
21:25to be able to have so many people's trust. And they believe in me to do a certain character
21:32without seeing. So that trust, I want to, you know, that trust, I want to, you know,
21:36that trust, I want to, you know, that trust, I want to keep my trust, I want to work. And
21:42that's my advantage. I get to learn how much I can learn. I grow as a person. So it's
21:46impairment to do this, to explore. And you also know your strengths and weaknesses. So you need
21:51to, you see what things you need to work on. Also, what's interesting about your filmography
21:56is that you have Sare Jahan Se Achha and then you have Gandhi. And it's completely dug to me of
22:03ideologies. What do you have to say about that? Yeah, that way, I mean, both the ideologies are
22:08absolutely opposite to each other. But at the same time, both the ideologies are trying to keep the
22:14country safe, avoid wars. So that way, you know, I can draw a little parallel to these two actors.
22:21His name was Mohan. His name is Vishnu. So that way, if I see, you know, there is a lot of parallel to
22:30this. But Gandhi is a biopic. And Vishnu is completely a fictional character.
22:38So I like to say that the ideology is different and similar. But in both lives, there are so
22:47different things that we all know about Gandhi's life. You know almost everything, right? Apart from
22:53his early days, like Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi's life. But it is still open for interpretation. What
22:59was happening in his mind when he was taking those decisions? What was he thinking? Nobody knows that.
23:05So that's what I explore when I create that character. Whereas Vishnu, we had a right from
23:16start to finish everything we fictionalized and we created. So as an actor, I got two extremely
23:24different characters. All right. I'm almost done with my interview. Last question is that,
23:30like, like, you know, what's the biggest enemy of our country?
23:34We have a lot of different people. We have a lot of different people. We have a lot of
23:41different people. We have a lot of different people. So first of all, I feel like discipline is a
23:45So there is such a thing that we are looking for years in our people, within us.
23:49Only one thing will happen, so many of you will be able to work on a good machine.
23:55Then it will be taken to the system or the system process.
23:59There are many things that we all are doing.
24:02All students are also coming up with brilliant ideas to improve these things.
24:07So this is our enemy.
24:09First of all, the big enemy is that it is a bad thing.
24:12It is such a thing that we can change our whole life.
24:17In your opinion?
24:18In my opinion, our biggest enemy and friend is our mind.
24:25Okay?
24:26In that mind, you can have arrogance and compassion in your heart.
24:33That is the biggest enemy and we need to just channelize that.
24:37Then he will do whatever he is doing in his head and eventually that will be good for our country.
24:44That is what I feel.
24:45Okay, any parting words?
24:4713th August?
24:48See?
24:4913th August?
24:50See?
24:52What can we say?
24:53Now, people are getting the same thing that the party is far away.
24:56The only thing I think is.
24:5713th August.
24:58All of them are great on Netflix.
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