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(Current Affairs)

Host:
- Maria Memon

Guests:
- Raoof Hasan PTI
- Mian Javed Latif PMLN
- Suhail Warraich (Analyst)

Ban on PTI - Does PMLN govt want to take U-Turn? - Maria Memon's Critical Analysis

Why has PTI not yet filed a reference against CJP Isa? - Rauf Hassan Told Everything

Is PMLN govt afraid of changing results of election 2024? - Javed Latif Gives Inside News

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Transcript
00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Arya Mehman with the program Swaala Ke Saat.
00:13Today's top stories are about the breakdown of the government.
00:16The government takes a decision and then steps back for a while.
00:20We will talk about the loss of decision-making in the first part of the program.
00:24Then we will talk about the PTI's decision to issue three references,
00:28which includes the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
00:31the Chief Justice of the Islamabad High Court and the Head of the Election Commission of Pakistan.
00:35We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:37In the end, politics is going in a closed lane.
00:39There is no point of view from anywhere.
00:42We will talk about where this whole matter will go in the last part of the program.
00:45But first, let's talk about the current government.
00:48There is a decision and it is announced.
00:51Since the decision has not been shown, it seems that the decision has to be withdrawn.
00:56There are many such examples.
00:57First of all, if we look at the announcement made by the government on the ban on the movement of justice,
01:01I think they must have done full homework.
01:03After that, they are taking such a big step.
01:05It is announced.
01:06And after that, people within the government's own camp, within the PMLN,
01:10start distancing from this decision and say that this is not a final result yet.
01:17This is the first example.
01:18Let's see.
01:19The loyal government will move the case to ban PTI.
01:23There is a lot of credible evidence that a ban on the movement of justice should be imposed.
01:26This decision will obviously be seen by the leadership first.
01:30After that, we will consult with our allies.
01:32And it will be under the law.
01:34The declaration did not go in front of the cabinet.
01:37The cabinet will consider it.
01:39If the point is that the declaration is based on evidence,
01:43then the declaration will be announced and presented in the Supreme Court.
01:48As far as the ban on PTI is concerned,
01:50this is a suggestion.
01:52And we will further discuss this suggestion with our political allies.
01:57I want to give my personal opinion.
01:59There should not be a ban on the political community.
02:04It seems that everyone threw him under the bus.
02:06And in this country, the information minister is loyal.
02:09But in someone's personal opinion, it seems that the government may not act on this decision.
02:15But given the public positioning, it does not seem that there is a ban on this decision.
02:20The second decision, which was to stop the operation Azme.
02:24The impression was given that it will be a military operation.
02:29Or it will be an operation of some law enforcement agency.
02:32And then the government said that this is not an operation.
02:36This will be an extension of the National Action Plan.
02:39So it was announced first.
02:41Then came the reaction of the ANP and other political parties.
02:45So we had to take a few steps back.
02:47Look at this.
02:49Azme needs a permanent operation.
02:51A permanent operation has been decided.
02:54In yesterday's meeting, the minister of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was present.
02:59All this was discussed in front of him.
03:01It was resolved in front of him that these actions will be taken against terrorism.
03:06Today, he is standing with terrorists by demonstrating here.
03:10We will go through our process and enforce it.
03:14Today, it will be presented in the Cabinet.
03:16Then there will be a discussion in the House.
03:19At no time did we think that this will be decided by the National Action Plan Committee.
03:26Then the process will start.
03:28The concerns expressed by the JUI, ANP and PTI, we will definitely address their concerns.
03:38The third example is the Judicial Package.
03:41It was announced.
03:43The ministers of different governments, including the legal adviser,
03:49kept saying that a Judicial Package is coming.
03:52It is being considered.
03:53It was not denied.
03:54Later, when the decision of the special sessions came,
03:57it was connected to the Judicial Package.
04:00It was said that it was rejected by the court.
04:02Then the government officials came and told everyone that there was no such Judicial Package.
04:07They are bringing a Judicial Package.
04:09The term of Chief Justice will be extended to 3 years.
04:12Or the retirement of Supreme Court Judges will be extended to 68 years,
04:15more than 65 years.
04:16I will not do it now because this task has not yet been entrusted to me as a Law Minister.
04:23I will not do it now because this task has not yet been entrusted to me as a Law Minister.
04:26If this proposal comes from any corner, from any parliamentary party or from any reference,
04:34then they will have the right.
04:36The Constitutional Package is on the cards.
04:38And I am saying this from my experience.
04:40I think that the package is necessary in the coming time.
04:43So that there is an equilibrium between the institutions in Pakistan.
04:48And in democracies, it is not the case that one institution starts fighting with another.
04:51Absolutely right.
04:52So I think this package is coming.
04:54The Chief Justice is thinking of extending the term of Chief Justice to 3 years.
04:58In the case of majority rule or majority rule.
05:01Or the retirement of Supreme Court Judges will be extended to 68 years.
05:04Then the news came that the Chief Justice has sent a message through the Attorney General
05:09that I am not interested in any kind of discrimination.
05:12Is this right?
05:13If you have to give across the board in the whole country,
05:16then you should give it to the judges as well.
05:18So that it has a complete impact and there is no discrimination in it.
05:21For that, a constitutional amendment is needed.
05:23But we were not dying for it.
05:25We want to give it necessarily.
05:27I am a witness to this myself after the meeting of the Judicial Commission.
05:31They asked that such things are going on.
05:33I said, sir, these are all rumors.
05:35They said, you did very well.
05:37The Attorney General was with me.
05:38You have clarified this.
05:41We will talk about the program.
05:42We have with us Mr. Mian Javed Latif.
05:44Thank you very much, Mr. Javed Latif, for joining us.
05:46Sir, I have given 2-3 examples.
05:48It was necessary to tell you this.
05:50Because these are 30-35-40 years of politics.
05:53In decision making, we see that a decision is announced
05:56and then it is not followed up.
05:58The ban is the latest example.
06:00There was no discussion in the party.
06:02No one was on board.
06:03Neither did the extremists know.
06:05They also came to know later.
06:06You announce the first decisions.
06:08Then you have to backtrack from them.
06:11What is this?
06:12Why is this happening?
06:17Thank you, Maria.
06:18But as far as my experience is concerned,
06:22as long as we see things,
06:25it is very clear that the ministerial information
06:30is the translation of any government.
06:33If another minister says something,
06:36it can be passed on.
06:39But the translation of the government
06:42does not speak like this.
06:46As long as there is no consensus,
06:49as long as the government...
06:52I don't understand how this can be done
06:55without consultation.
06:57It is not appropriate.
06:59And if there has been a consultation,
07:01then someone else is doing something else.
07:04That is also wrong.
07:05But as far as the question is,
07:07whether there is a ban on a political party or not,
07:12there are no restrictions on political parties.
07:15But there are no restrictions on political parties.
07:18There have been restrictions on terrorist groups
07:22or groups that have a military wing.
07:27According to the law,
07:29there are still restrictions on terrorist groups.
07:35And as far as the PTI is concerned,
07:38as I have said before,
07:41it is not possible to imagine
07:44that a political party can be restricted
07:47without consulting with a political party.
07:52And especially on 9th and 10th May,
07:55after that, there is no political party.
07:58Secondly, I am not talking about the PTI,
08:03I am talking in general terms.
08:05I am talking about any party.
08:07The law of Pakistan does not allow
08:11you to overrule the interests of your state
08:17and sell the interests of your state
08:20and give preference to the interests of another state.
08:24Then you will violate the law
08:27and you will be subject to treason.
08:29But Mr. Javed Latif,
08:30the problem is that after 9th May,
08:33if you say that there is no political party,
08:36then there is no restriction.
08:37You went to the elections.
08:39The election results are controversial.
08:41That is your point of view.
08:42You also agree.
08:43After four months of the election,
08:45there is a decision on special seats.
08:47When you feel that there will be no special seats,
08:49then you talk about restricting it.
08:51So this means that after the political Hikmati Amli failed,
08:54now there is only a way to restrict.
08:56If there was a restriction,
08:57then it was to be imposed after 9th May.
08:58Then there was no demand.
08:59No action was taken in this regard.
09:02Now politics is failing.
09:03This is happening because of this.
09:04Maria, you are right.
09:09You should not take a step on time
09:12and then make a decision.
09:15If new things have been created during this time,
09:19then what you are saying is right.
09:22Then people will understand in the same way.
09:24The thing is that when the people sitting in the Pakistani courts
09:28will facilitate,
09:30and I am not saying this on the first day,
09:33but I have been saying this for the past two years
09:36that they have facilitated.
09:39And then you saw that in one institution,
09:43which is a powerful institution,
09:45those who facilitated it were retired people
09:49or Hazard Service people.
09:51After 9th and 10th May,
09:53they had to settle themselves
09:55and then took action against many people.
09:58I am repeating this in the second institution.
10:01In the second institution,
10:03the settlement itself started,
10:04but then it stopped.
10:06Why did it stop?
10:07These things are coming out today.
10:09And in the same way,
10:10I will say this today as well,
10:12that when a special decision comes
10:17or on a special occasion,
10:19you remember all those old things,
10:22then people will look at it with suspicion.
10:24As I said,
10:26if you have to put restrictions
10:29against terrorists,
10:31against screaming,
10:33then you have to find a better opportunity
10:36than the 9th and 10th May Act.
10:40But that frame has come out.
10:43The problem is that politically,
10:45you do not have a solution.
10:47As a result of the court decisions,
10:49the sessions are held,
10:50and you are given two opinions.
10:52You cannot legislate.
10:54The fear is that after October,
10:56elections can be changed again,
10:58or the court will take it on.
11:00Who is scaring you?
11:02Where is this fear coming from?
11:04Look, I think that the political parties
11:08should rise above this fear.
11:12By ignoring this fear,
11:14you are talking about violating the law.
11:18The fact is that if the 2018 elections
11:22were wrong for me,
11:24and the RTS was right for me,
11:26then the rest of the people should have spoken.
11:28The media should have spoken.
11:30Today, it is being said that
11:32in October and November,
11:34there will be a petition
11:36regarding the 2024 elections,
11:38and there will be a decision on it.
11:40So, even if a decision is given
11:42on the 2018 elections,
11:44then today,
11:46no one is talking about the 2024 elections.
11:50Sir, you should go to the Supreme Court.
11:52Maria, one second.
11:54One second, please.
11:56When something does not suit someone,
11:58then they make a fuss about it.
12:00Similarly,
12:02if an act is against someone else,
12:04then no one is ready to talk about it,
12:06because the beneficiary of the act
12:08is the person himself.
12:10The point is that
12:12if you start doing something
12:14from 2014,
12:16then when the journey
12:18of Pakistan's destruction
12:20starts,
12:22then no one is ready to stop.
12:24And till today,
12:26no one is able to understand
12:28whether the people sitting
12:30in the RTIs are talking
12:32about the law,
12:34or the beneficiaries,
12:36or is it someone's ego?
12:38Mr. Javed, you have been doing this
12:40for the past two years.
12:42Your senior leadership should be doing this.
12:44Mr. Nawaz Sharif should be doing this.
12:46Mr. Imran Khan himself does this
12:48Mr. Shahbaz Sharif does this,
12:50Mr. Shahbaz Sharif does this.
12:52Maria,
12:54what you are saying
12:56that what I have been doing
12:58for the past two years,
13:00Mr. Nawaz Sharif should be doing this.
13:02Mr. Nawaz Sharif has been suffering
13:04from this for the past 25 years.
13:06And what he has been doing
13:08for the past 25 years,
13:10I am still talking about this,
13:12I am saying that
13:14if Mr. Nawaz Sharif
13:16does not open his mouth
13:18about the international pressure
13:20on Pakistan,
13:22and the people sitting
13:24in the RTIs of Pakistan
13:26take international pressure
13:28and take action
13:30against the interests of Pakistan,
13:32or take decisions,
13:34then if Mr. Nawaz Sharif
13:36does not open his mouth
13:38about the international
13:40pressure on Pakistan,
13:42or the interests of Pakistan,
13:44then today,
13:46that person,
13:48whose government has gone
13:50through distrust,
13:52no one has broken his government,
13:54no judicial coup has taken place,
13:56no martial law has been imposed,
13:58but those against whom martial law
14:00has been imposed, those against
14:02whom judicial coup has taken place,
14:04they are silent,
14:06but those whose government
14:08has gone through distrust,
14:10they are not silent,
14:12and the forces of the world
14:14are not taking a step back
14:16to force Pakistan,
14:18to force Pakistan,
14:20just because their beloved
14:22has been hurt,
14:24the one who was supposed
14:26to fulfill their agenda
14:28is in jail today,
14:30but someone tell me,
14:32when our governments
14:34used to end,
14:36when there was a judicial coup
14:38in our time,
14:40at that time,
14:42no one used to
14:44take a step back,
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