00:00Well, there is no doubt that Trump emerges this as something of a hero, certainly amongst
00:06his supporters.
00:07And there is certainly precedent for this, that back in the early 80s, when a certain
00:12sort of Ronald Reagan was indeed president, and he was subject to an assassination attempt,
00:17his poll ratings went up by about 8%.
00:20So we expect to see something like that.
00:23And as we know, the ratings were sort of showing that sort of polls were showing sort of Trump
00:29ahead nationally, and indeed, even the swing state.
00:32So this can only sort of benefit him.
00:34What will it do?
00:35Well, quite clearly, of course, it sort of makes him sort of gives his ability to win
00:40this presidency, much greater heft, but I think it sort of puts pressure upon Biden
00:45to sort of to do something, but of course, his ability to do so is limited.
00:50But of course, the one thing he could do, which, of course, he's been under pressure
00:53to do for the last number of weeks, is to declare he's standing down and bring in a
00:57new candidate who would not have that degree of sort of animosity that certainly has been
01:02developed between Trump and Biden in the recent debates.
01:07But yeah, it's a very strange thing to happen.
01:11It's a peculiar election.
01:12It's pretty toxic.
01:14And dare I say that it's being jumped upon by conspiracy theories.
01:17So it just makes a sort of a really difficult process.
01:21All the worse, and tragically, of course, let's not forget that sort of one innocent
01:26person was killed by a bystander or at least a member of the audience at the Trump rally,
01:33and a couple of others sort of very seriously injured.
01:35So yeah, there's a whole question about sort of guns.
01:38I mean, I have to sort of say it does seem quite incredible that sort of this 20-year-old
01:43was able to get quite as close under the nose of the security detail, which is setting
01:50sort of the hairs running as to sort of who knew what and what was going on.
01:54But these sort of things happen, and hopefully we won't see this again for quite some time.
02:01Do you think we'll see a softening of rhetoric between the candidates in light of what's
02:05happened?
02:06Well, I've seen a headline this morning saying that Trump is not going to blame Biden because
02:10there are some within the sort of the, if I call it the sort of the make America great
02:14again, part of his campaign who are sort of pretty anti, well not pretty, they're very
02:20strongly anti Biden and Democrat.
02:24And they've been put around all sorts of theories that sort of somehow this is a sort of Biden
02:27plot.
02:28I don't think he's capable of that and certainly wouldn't do it.
02:32But yeah, I mean, we hope, of course, it lowers the sort of rhetoric.
02:36But again, dare I say this is an election which is pretty important in terms of the
02:42sort of the future of the world.
02:43We live in really difficult times, you know, in terms of what's going on obviously in America,
02:49but also more particularly the rest of the world and here in Europe.
02:52And again, we sort of need the sort of the best possible sort of person.
02:55So that and again, that the whole campaign has been mired in sort of a sort of viciousness
03:01by certain campaigns, particularly, as I say, on the Trump side, which is not helpful.
03:05So, you know, calmness and sort of looking to the future and stability is all important.
03:13And I make that point insofar as that if it's a narrow win for either side, then, of course,
03:19and particularly if it was a narrow win for the Democrats, because we know what may happen.
03:24America is a much more divided society than we've sort of seen in recent generations.
03:30And I think that this could potentially, or could, the election could spark civil disorder.
03:35Indeed, there is a speculation had Donald Trump been murdered on Saturday, then of course
03:43that might have set up a whole set of other events.
03:45So, you know, very, very difficult times.
03:47And as I say, we do need to sort of calm, as it were, and move into a proper campaign
03:53about the sort of the bread and butter issues and not calling names, which does seem a bit
03:59pathetic for their stature.
04:02Many world leaders, including our own Zakir Starmer, have openly supported Biden.
04:07Do you think they need to change their approach now in light of the fact there could be a
04:11Trump victory?
04:12And then, of course, there's the implications, such as Trump's threat to leave NATO and also
04:18his comments that Ukraine's war is Europe's war.
04:23Well, indeed, you know, Trump is, I mean, he talks about being, you know, well, the
04:28establishment, which, of course, he's done well at being, you know, sort of a property
04:32developer and all the sort of things that sort of gave him sort of fabulous wealth,
04:37as we sort of see, and decided to run for the White House as a kind of outside of the
04:41mainstream.
04:42But of course, he does now represent the sort of the Republican Party.
04:46So, you know, his views are sort of not, as I might call them sort of mainstream views,
04:52but nonetheless, if he wins, and of course, that would be the democratic process, then
04:57world leaders would have to sort of get with that.
05:00And of course, there is this degree of real politic, which requires them to sort of to
05:05work with whoever is in the White House.
05:07And hopefully, of course, to sort of to meld the opinion of the sort of those around him,
05:12the policymakers, because, of course, this this time, I think more than certainly in
05:172016, I think he's much more prepared for sort of taking office.
05:21And of course, there's a whole set of sort of concerns about what that may mean.
05:24And you mentioned NATO.
05:25And of course, NATO is really, really important in terms of what we see in Ukraine, and what
05:30may happen if Ukraine were to fall.
05:33I don't think that that's going to happen.
05:34I think what we're into is a very long war, it appears.
05:37But of course, American help is really sort of helpful in that.
05:42Because, of course, as I say, it's about sort of weaponry.
05:45And, dare I say, we sort of read of the sort of the ongoing casualties.
05:49And certainly on both sides, I sort of do have sympathy for the sort of conscripts on
05:52the sort of the Russian side who don't want to be there.
05:54It seems to me this is a crazy war fought by sort of Putin.
05:59But yeah, the world is in a sort of it's in a difficult position, as I say, we could do
06:05with sort of some real sort of sanity in the White House.
06:09And I'm not trying to sort of cast any opinions here.
06:12But I suppose by virtue of what I say, it is an opinion.
06:15Trump is not seen as the sort of the part of the mainstream and indeed is certainly
06:20seen as erratic.
06:22But hey, you know, we have to let the democratic process take its course.
06:26And we'll know in November who will be the sort of next president of the United States.
06:30And we'll show some work from there.
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