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00:00 All right. The rundown, uh, November 15th, 2023, Jeff D low Kirk Minahan and the rocket.
00:15 Wow. Welcome back to the rundown Jared Corral.
00:18 This is I, so John Rich asked me to do it and I was like, what fucking big baseball
00:24 story did I miss? I was like, I was like, I don't know why. And then he goes, he goes,
00:29 don't worry about it. Like we're, we're probably not going to talk about a bunch of sports.
00:32 And then we get the rundown, like the first three stories are like NBA, NFL. I'm like,
00:36 bro, what the fuck am I doing here?
00:38 Eric texting me. He's all nervous about this. Like you think I'm going to get into the NFC
00:41 South or whatever? I'll even mean maybe, or to God, I've never looked at an email from
00:45 the rundown ever. I've not read one word from it ever. I imagine just all stupid stories.
00:50 I would have to imagine if John Rich is doing it before, before we, before we get into it,
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01:39 quick sports news. I mean, this was, this was the greatest like week as a Browns fan,
01:44 maybe my lifetime and now the quarterback's out for the years. That's fucking sick. Very
01:47 cool. So we can breeze past that. I've been miserable. Happen to good people, you know?
01:53 Yeah. Just now. And now, and now I got like Steelers, like I like fucking like Jerry's
01:59 co-host is like, like, you know, not to say anyone deserves an injury, but it's like these
02:04 people were rooting for like big Ben for years. Like, ah, my guy. So I can't say anything.
02:08 It's a fucking, it's miserable. Yeah. Yeah. Who's Jerry's co-host for what? His, uh, his
02:13 Steelers podcast. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was yelled for the year. I don't
02:17 even know. Yeah. It's not for the year. It's just done for the year. It's done. They're
02:22 backups are garbage. Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. So that that's football. What's
02:27 your take on that? Uh, I mean, I feel like shoulder injuries for quarterbacks, probably
02:32 not good. Oh, you knew the injury. Uh, I, I saw something on Instagram about it. Like
02:37 it came, I had to be like forcefully put in front of me. Sean Watson knows about that.
02:42 Um, what's what's too quick. Baseball, a snap, a Otani prediction, Jared. Um, I mean, I feel
02:49 like, I think it's, I think it's going to be a fascinating free agency in terms of the
02:54 teams that maybe come out of the woodwork to sign it. But I feel like everyone thinks
02:57 he's going to the Dodgers. I feel like it's going to be boring. Uh, I want to see, I want
03:02 to see what teams put together. Uh, at least I want to see the teams that try like, give
03:08 me a team that's going to try, give me a team that's going to say to themselves, all right,
03:12 it's going to cost half a billion dollars, but can we make that make financial sense?
03:18 Uh, cause I mean, all of the, all these owners are, they're billionaires, they're business
03:22 people and this isn't just a baseball decision. Like this is a, this is a global marketing
03:28 decision. Like, do we get this random ass team that makes him a ridiculous offer because
03:33 they know what it'll do from a business perspective. But through all that thought, you're just
03:38 probably going to land on, yeah, he's just going to go to the Dodgers.
03:40 Did you imagine Kirk, if you turned to your right one day and you got guests in the studio,
03:44 next to show a Tani Kirkman and guarantee is going to the giants, lock it up. The giants.
03:51 Wow. Okay. Lock it up. Why? Why you think that, uh, isn't he on a plane going there
03:56 today or something? I don't know. Everyone, I mean, he's, he loves Boston. I thought it
04:00 was on a private plane today. I thought I saw that on Twitter. No, am I wrong? I mean,
04:04 I don't know. He was happy in the picture, the big smile on his face. So I was like,
04:07 Oh, he seemed happy. Why? Why not? It's a great area. I just keep hearing about his
04:10 fondness for Fenway park and how much, how much he loves the city of Boston. So I mean,
04:14 they're not, I not spent, you know, those losers, they're not spending money on it.
04:17 There's no way they're spending 500 million on anybody. No chance. Zero. But again, John
04:21 Henry business guy, like no one cares about the red Sox right now. And it pains me to
04:25 say that, you know how much it pains me to say that people don't give a shit. And it
04:29 sucks that if you were to power rank the four Boston sports teams, like, cause before, if
04:34 the red Sox were bad, you would at least like, this is when you were doing your talk radio
04:38 era Kirk. So you would know when they were so bad, people would still call in because
04:42 they were angry.
04:43 They wanted to talk about how bad they are now. People just it's apathy. No one gives
04:48 a shit. Like I feel like they have the best trade. Um, partly I think it was, it was definitely
04:55 the best trade. It was, uh, the Heim era of fans being convinced that they're the Tampa
05:02 Bay red Sox. Like they're just not going to spend money anymore. Like this is their new
05:05 philosophy. We're going to try and win with less. Like that's just not appealing. Like
05:10 I get that there are models where you can win with less. I mean the guardians, you would
05:15 know Jeff, like the, the guardians, they don't spend a ton of money, but they, they get to
05:19 the playoffs more often than not, especially under Tito. And this idea that the red Sox
05:24 were going to try to adopt this new model, um, is fucking boring. Like you can't do that
05:30 in Boston. You need stars here in this market.
05:34 Maybe your take as a big, as a big Sox fan, Kirk. I was, I was actually looking for my
05:39 birthday by Mike Sanders. So TV guides, I was looking at it while Jareb was talking
05:42 about the red Sox. Yeah. But yeah, he's not saying he's not the John Henry's. He's not
05:47 signed. No, it is. I mean, it is. That is a, it's a grip. I don't want Jared to be that
05:50 happy. I don't want that to happen. I don't even know that I would be that. I mean, like
05:54 Jared playing kickball with him on some Nessun show. My life is too short.
06:00 Me and me and Luma Loney both kind of are in the same boat where we giants. I'm just
06:07 saying we, we, we both are kind of like, yeah, maybe spend that money somewhere else. We're
06:10 not, we're not like gung ho about it. I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I
06:14 will say it. I, I, I'll just say this on an end the subject on this. It doesn't make sense
06:19 to sign anybody for that much money. Like you're right. Like if I'm a business, if you
06:23 can make money off it from a baseball perspective, you have any budget at all. It actually makes
06:27 no sense to sign this guy as great as he is to that contract. I mean, you know, that's,
06:32 that's nuts. I agree, but the giants are going to do it. I talked to Brian Sabian earlier
06:37 today, Brian Sabian. Yeah. Yeah. He still has friends in the organization. Okay. I spoke
06:42 to Willie Mays. Yeah. We talked every Tuesday and Wednesday as it were. It's incredible.
06:48 Lock it in for those interested. I Kirk, any thoughts on the Netflix cup golf event that
06:52 just happened in Vegas last night? I don't know if you saw this chair. I hate it. I hate
06:57 it. I don't, I'm a golf guy, obviously. And I don't like to plug stuff here. The KMS golf
07:01 shirts go up at three o'clock today, which I'm looking forward to in collaboration with
07:05 Will Compton. We're putting together a little shirt line, but the, I don't like when guys
07:09 are hitting golf ball. I hate that stupid thing in Las Vegas with the sphere. It was
07:13 right next to the sphere. Yeah. I fucking hate that. That J Arnold Palmer's rolling
07:17 around in his grave. Bobby Jones was be vomiting. I don't, I don't, and it's like losers like
07:22 feet. It's just a loser parade. Like Justin Thomas and the female it's too goofy. It's
07:26 too fucking goofy. I don't, I don't like this is coming from somebody who takes miniature
07:30 golf very seriously. I understand that. But like, I don't, it feels like even this league
07:34 they're doing now in Boston, the one the other day with macro, you know, the team's McElroy
07:38 and Keegan. Like, I don't even know what this stuff is. I will say that virtual golf thing
07:42 you couldn't, I mean, in terms of like big sports things, you could not have me less
07:48 interested in that. I don't even know what it is. I'm looking at, I'm going to, I'm looking
07:52 at a Brandon Walker hitting balls and frigging places now. And she's like, what happened
07:57 to the guy? Just teeing up a ball and just playing golf. Why is that? Why does everything
08:01 have to be so goddamn like, well, again, that stupid sphere the other day, it's like these
08:04 big eyes looking at me. I'm like, well, can I just, why is it, is it, is it that hard
08:09 to sit there and watch somebody play golf, you know, for, you know, seven, eight, 12
08:14 hours, like I could do, I don't know. I'm old though. So, you know, I'm 56 years old.
08:18 So what the hell do I do? Jared, did you know much about this event? Did you see it? Uh,
08:22 the only golfers that I know are Justin Thomas because he idolizes David Ortiz and Paige
08:28 sporadic. That's it. Yeah. They, they, they, they, uh, they paired formula one. Cause the
08:33 F one race in Vegas, which they've been building the track in Vegas for six months. And they,
08:39 they drained all like they drain the gondolas at whatever the fucking Venetian or like everything.
08:44 You can't see the Bellagio if it's crazy. And apparently ticket prices are horrible
08:48 now too. Like it's no wood, but the attendance is expected to be terrible. It's going to
08:51 rain all weekend. And they paired up F one driver with golfers. And they'd like a speed
08:55 golf thing. It fit. It was, it was like the most Netflix thing. They had the one, I think
09:00 who was teeing off. It might've been like Max home was teeing off and they had like
09:04 the murder robot from squid game looking over. Yeah. I don't need that in my life. Like I
09:08 don't, you know, Max home, like when a major, just don't worry about hitting, you know,
09:12 leave me alone is paid. What's your name is page. What? I know Max home on two is sporadic.
09:17 I know. I know. Max, I want to follow each other. She got social media or no. She, yeah,
09:22 she has a, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do know. I
09:28 do know. Max home. You, you know him. Yeah. Well we follow each other. Yeah. We're friends.
09:32 Oh, nice. Yeah. Uh, for you as a friend of Max home, his rigs. Oh, this is juicy. I just
09:42 caught up on this right before we came on. I kind of feel like Compton's friend to them
09:46 too, but I could write a book on this. Honestly, I've spent, I listened to the interview. I
09:49 looked at the Twitter stuff. I'm friends with both these guys. And if you watch surviving
09:53 barstool, you'll find out that we'll Compton. I certainly, uh, form some sort of, whether
09:58 it's Alliance or hatred, we have something going on in that. So let me be the first person
10:03 on a barstool platform to explain this feud in a really long fashion today. Just attribute
10:08 my friend, Kevin Francis Clancy, who spent 76 minutes setting something up. So, I mean,
10:14 he's just pretty much, well, go ahead, Jeff, you're the host. I I'll let you do it. I'll
10:17 let you know. You sure you seem to have this eloquently all mapped out in your head. I'll
10:20 just say so. Uh, a few months ago, April, right around the masters, the tournament will
10:25 Compton didn't know about today. He sent a text to rigs saying, Hey, uh, how about we
10:30 do some wacky bit? You know, like we pretend that we're the first people do golf merch.
10:35 Let's do this together. And we'll go back and forth. Love some fun. And rigs is basically
10:38 in a rigs way. Like now I've no interest in that. That's fucking stupid. Fuck you. Frankie
10:42 goes on barstool radio yesterday and it's like, eh, we're not like, we're not close
10:46 to collaboration. So then Compton put together this video, which is pretty funny last night.
10:51 I thought dumping all over a rigs at, Oh, I'm missing something though. Jeff's. Yeah.
10:55 I screwed up a rigs. Then went after, uh, will it's put up the old text, right? Put
10:59 the text from April. Cause we'll then went to Frankie, right? Am I fucking this whole
11:03 thing up? I think I'm fucking no. You're basically the only thing between what is a regs tweet.
11:09 Yeah. Yeah. Rigs responded to the, to Will's quote tweet of the Frankie moment. And he
11:13 ratioed will raise the old, put up the original text back and forth. And then, uh, and then
11:19 we'll do the funny video. And then today they were on barstool radio, I think is pretty
11:22 much what happened. And, and they had a good back and forth, but I thought Will's video
11:27 was very funny.
11:28 Rigs. He, my special little boy. I just, uh, I tucked my daughter in earlier and now I
11:34 can get you ready for bed as well. So your tweet, number one, your, your ratio, what
11:39 a ratio hats off to you. That was a hell of a comeback. A great ratio. As a matter of
11:43 fact, saying that I came to you about wanting to do fake beef so that way we could promote
11:47 bus and merge. But here we are on the internet, have a little bit of fun. When I came to you
11:53 and approached you back in April, I think it was the, I think it was around like the
11:57 masters is when we did our bus and golf trap, which by the way, we were asked to do that
12:01 because golf merch flies off the shelves.
12:04 You guys have the number one brand. And I meant it when I said that I respect what you
12:09 guys have built. You guys are the big dogs on campus. Like a lot of the barstool brands
12:13 we've came to get to know and want to rub elbows with because barstool, you guys are
12:18 the best at what you do. Um, I thought rigs, I scored the fight like one 16, one 10 rigs
12:26 today. I thought that was a pretty clear rigs when head to head today. Cause he, cause he
12:30 has the truth on his side.
12:32 And you know, if we go back to the receipt of the whole thing, it's, I come from the
12:35 Dave Portnoy brick by brick, fucking not stick by stick. I'm going to handle it the way I
12:39 do with anything. If it doesn't affect me, I'm going to ignore it. So I feel like the
12:45 whole gatekeeping thing, it is more like the me mentality. And look, that was something
12:49 that was like, go. My response was like, Hey, totally understand that it wasn't, Hey, I
12:53 think your idea is bad. Let's figure out a new way to collab. Because if it was to the
12:57 thought that Frankie was talking about yesterday on barstool radio, which is, Hey, why don't
13:01 we bring in other brands?
13:02 We want to do more with other brands. We want to be collaborative. That's when I grabbed
13:05 that and was like, okay, Frankie doesn't seem to know. It seems like his filter of how the
13:10 conversation went down, came from rigs his mouth. And he's painting it as look at this
13:14 dog shit idea. Like, look at these guys trying to step on our turf and do all these different
13:18 things. So I hear Frankie talking about an answering a question that wasn't even specific
13:23 to bringing up other brands internally. It's kind of, Oh, it seems like they felt some
13:26 type of way and there's some disconnect there.
13:29 And then when I say my thing on Twitter and you come in, I think it's a lame idea. And
13:32 then you double down with the lame thing. That's where it's like, okay, let's, you know,
13:36 just like I handle anything. I said, you want a tax pass seven months ago, I wake up yesterday,
13:40 I get tagged. And then you put a five minute video out. I've put out one tweet, like you
13:44 went nuts about it. You're clearly upset about it. My whole point, the whole thing is like,
13:48 we've collaborated for eight years. We've been at barstool sports. We did a collaborative
13:52 merch with KFC radio with the spaceman and barstool golf. Like we've collaborated forever.
13:57 We were part of the original 15 people in the content pen. We've been doing fucking
14:01 everything and yes, like, does it annoy me when other brands start putting out golf series
14:07 after golf series? Of course it does. We built this fucking thing from the ground up. We
14:12 used to get dragged onto barstool radio and crucified for filming golf videos. Kevin was
14:16 there. We were the boondoggle boys. We somehow built it to a point where it's an incredibly
14:21 amazing thing. It's the coolest job in the world. Nobody would want in their own company,
14:26 no less to have the massive operations going on that are potentially going to oversaturate
14:31 the market of what you're doing. So are we protective as fuck about the brand that we
14:35 built? Of course we are, but there's endless examples of us collaborating with everybody.
14:40 If you're rigs intellectually, why would you help? Will Compton sell golf merch? If you're
14:47 selling golf merch yourself, if you want to sell golf merch, go sell it. Like, that's
14:51 fine. I'm not going to help you do it, but like, why am I going to, it's not benefiting
14:55 me at all. Like I would do the same thing. I'd be like, Hey, I do it maybe in a nicer
14:58 way. Cause I like will, but I'd be like, I think I'm all set. And I think we're going
15:02 to try and sell our own stuff. I tend to agree with Kirk. I don't really know will at all.
15:08 But to rigs his point about like them building the ground, building it from the ground up.
15:13 And then they, he also made the point about, I remember those days, the early Barstool
15:17 radio days where they would go off to make golf content and get absolutely sewered on
15:22 radio by Dave being like, Oh, the boondoggle boys, you guys are just going out there golf
15:27 and tough life you guys have. And they have one of the biggest brands at Barstool now.
15:31 So I think I tend to lean rigs in this one. I think, I think where people get turned off
15:39 maybe a little bit is that he has, he can be a little stuffy. Like he has that. Yeah.
15:46 Like, like I know early rigs, like I know like 2016 rigs is not the same now as country
15:53 club rigs. It's a different guy, but I feel like he's also just, he's got more of a business
15:57 sense now and he should be, it's, it's not necessarily gatekeeping. It's not gatekeeping.
16:03 He didn't say by the way, he made a joke. He's like, if we're gatekeeping, we're the
16:06 worst fucking gatekeepers in the world. Right. It's not gatekeeping. It's protecting his
16:11 brand, which I think he, he should feel like he has a right to do. And what Kirk was saying
16:16 about how, like, all right, yeah. So we're going to, this isn't a collaboration. This
16:20 is like you kind of latching on to foreplay to boost your sales in the golf space because
16:27 you're in the football world and you're trying to get into the golf world and you want us
16:31 to elevate you there. What's the benefit for us?
16:33 The one thing I was interested in that didn't really come up was does rigs care to me? Like
16:39 a few months ago, I was at the corn fairy tour with those guys when PFT and Hank did
16:43 the video breaking a hundred, there was a clear rip off of, of what Trent was doing.
16:47 And like, I could see why they were pissed off by that, that I understand. But like,
16:51 if I wanted to, or busting the boys want to sell golf shirts, I don't think they have
16:56 any right to bitch about that. Like, that's a totally different situation. I'm not, if
17:00 I say, Hey, tomorrow we're putting up Kirkman and show golf merchandise.
17:04 Like I don't think anybody who was going to buy that was going to buy the foreplay shirt
17:09 instead. You know what I mean? Like at that point, rigs has got to say, and those guys,
17:13 I don't know, I'll I'm sure I'll talk to her at some point, but if they're like, Hey, you,
17:16 I don't think you should be doing that. Like those guys didn't invent fucking golf shirts.
17:20 Like that's a different situation. Whereas if I was saying, Hey, we're gonna go do a
17:23 bunch of golf tournaments all over the country. Well then, you know, you got to tell us to
17:27 fuck off there. There is a line where if rigs is offended, they're actually just selling
17:32 shirts. That's different. But I, she was pretty clear that he wasn't right. Like you said,
17:36 he's like, yeah, but I don't know with him. He's sensitive. He is country. As he said
17:40 today, he did apologize to will. He said, I don't. So if that's the issue, then it's
17:45 like, well, I got, like, we have to go crawling to rigs every time we want to sell a golf
17:50 shirt. I mean, like they're fucking golf shirts. I didn't take that as being the issue. I took
17:55 it as why should we help you sell your merch? Right. Right. Because I don't think that the
18:01 collaboration helps foreplay sell their merch. So I get it from like, if you, if you don't
18:07 want to help them out, that's your prerogative. Um, I feel like sometimes that does happen
18:12 in the barstool world, but a lot of times it doesn't like there, it's gotta be a mutually
18:15 beneficial thing for a lot of brands that want to collaborate there. And I see it. I
18:19 see it from rig side. Like if he doesn't want to help him out, he doesn't want to help him
18:22 out. He touched on a few things to will said. He mentioned he's like, he helped out with
18:25 the class and stuff. And rings was pretty, pretty adamant. He's like one. He said, I
18:30 can't, I'm sorry. My reply was like, I think he said Conti was the word. I believe he's
18:33 an asshole. I'm not like, yeah, it's rigs. But, um, but then, but he also, he's like,
18:40 like, I don't like it wasn't about you doing it. It was about, I just didn't want to be
18:44 a part of it. Cause like something Caleb dropped the Sunday conversation golf pole in the middle
18:47 that that back and forth. I thought it was a joke. I thought there was a parody. I saw
18:51 it. I think it's pretty cool looking shirt, honestly. I don't really care about it. I've
18:55 been for months. I've had people, my listeners, hell we do golf stuff, do golf stuff. And
19:00 I always been kind of hesitant, but now I'm like, well, we'll just do it. I mean, I don't
19:03 know who knows that he also will also mentioned the larger and you'll see some of it with
19:08 surviving barstool. I don't want to overhype the show, but you will definitely see that
19:11 whether it's good or not. We'll see, but you will see the, the back and forth, bad blood.
19:17 Um, and we'll did reference that. He said, you know, I thought this was like a team,
19:20 team, team thing. And he has, I've realized that's not the case here, which is definitely
19:24 true. I mean, that's, that's pie in the sky. I love Compton, but like that, this is like,
19:28 this is like a business, like everyone's true. Like where other, this isn't, it's kind of
19:34 a team in theory, but everyone's doing, I've always viewed, I mean, my show, I mean, my,
19:38 my main show is, is literally only exists because of the collaboration. Like without
19:43 that, I would not have a show. So I think show stuff, you get it. But I do think there
19:47 is, there is a line with merch. Like, I don't, I don't have like a big merch brand. Like
19:51 we have like the dozen game and stuff. So like for me, promoting merches, like when
19:56 black Friday, Saturday, Monday rolls around, I'll put other people like they're cool shit
19:59 as well. And like, I'll promote my game, but like, I'll do that. But then there's other
20:02 brands are like, they have like four players. Riggs is going to have a apartment full. He
20:06 wanted to move as an apartment in a week. He's gonna get so many things delivered to
20:09 show off for black Friday. So I get that. I get like the content thing. I think if you
20:13 don't collab on content, you're probably being a piece of shit. Like if you really like,
20:17 but the merch, the merch stuff is different. I think I kinda, I do get that. Especially
20:21 how big their brand is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess, yeah. I mean, we have the
20:26 wealth and the history of the company, so I have no fucking idea, but yeah, it sounds
20:30 good. You got to pick a, pick a side now though. Kirk, a rig Riggs or rig Riggs or will. Oh,
20:37 in this argument. Yeah. Riggs. I mean the rigs. I mean, it's too bad. Will is a nicer
20:42 human. Riggs is a terrible person. But he's a, he's a, he's a bad human being, but we'll
20:47 say nicer person, but we'll pick the wrong fight on this one. Like there's a better fight
20:53 to be had in the larger. Are we a team or are we team argument? And Hey, why won't you
20:58 collaborate and help me sell golf merch while you're trying to sell golf merges? He just
21:03 picked the wrong argument on this one. I think. Yeah. Riggs Riggs has a lot of Vince McMahon
21:07 and I'm Kirk, but he's willing to step on some throats. He's, he's willing to do whatever
21:11 it takes to take his thing to the top. Whereas will a much nicer human being. He's kind of
21:17 got like puppy dog brain where he wants to come in there and he wants to smell. He wants
21:20 to get pat by you and he wants to collaborate. He wants to have fun. And I was missing the
21:25 context about will going to the barstool classic. Cause it's kind of like, all right, like,
21:30 you know, I'm doing something for you. Like, how about you do something for me? Like that's,
21:33 that's a pretty big missing piece for, at least for me, if they, if they weren't aware
21:36 of that part of the story, like I'm Riggs, I'm like, I appreciate you doing that, but
21:40 you're still, we don't need it. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, this is a gesture. It's the gesture.
21:44 Like it's, it's a friendly gesture. It's not like, it's not like will is coming out of
21:48 the woodwork being like, we're not friends. You've never done anything for me. You're
21:52 just like, we've never had any type of cross before. And now all of a sudden you want me
21:56 to help you sell your merch, like fuck you. But if he's, if he's going to support the
22:00 barstool classic, like that's, that's something that, that that's a, that's a backscratch
22:03 type move. Yeah. Riggs an asshole. Who's disputing this? Riggs would know. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah.
22:10 Yeah. I think, I think if, if it had been like, we'll saying just straight up, like,
22:13 Hey, would you want to do like a golf thing together? And like, maybe they may still say
22:17 no, but like, then I think then that starts to bleed a little more into it. It's the,
22:20 it's the merch thing. The merch thing gets a little hairy and we're coming up on what,
22:25 what is often a fiery time with black Friday, Saturday, Monday, Jared, you've been, you've
22:28 been, you were in the crosshairs. I'm the worst in history at this. Yeah. I would say,
22:33 I don't think, I do not think you were the worst because the time that it got really
22:37 ugly during COVID you were not the big loser in that one. Well, YP was, but I was the dude
22:44 that got sewered in the company email. Like that, that same like YP got sewered on Dave's
22:50 podcast. I got sewered on the company email. I was just wise enough to keep my mouth shut.
22:56 YP put out a statement in a video in the middle of the woods addressing it where I was just
23:01 like, all right, like I'm still not going to fucking promote any merch, but I'm not
23:04 going to bark back on this one. Like I know when to keep my mouth shut. But yeah, that
23:09 was, that was the same black Friday. That was 2020 I believe.
23:12 I think this year will be way crazier because the first year he owns the company again,
23:16 it's going to be full, like, and he's going to focus on somebody. I don't know who it
23:21 is, but somebody will be, I don't know what the, I don't know what our stunt is. You and
23:25 I are going to be in New York. It sounds like, I want to fully commit to that. I don't know
23:31 what our, I have no idea. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what like our, what our
23:35 thing is. I don't know. Like there's any barstool employees that are new to black Friday. Take
23:39 it from me. Promoter early and often the night before set your alarm. Oh, if you're an early
23:45 sleeper, guess what? You're fucking setting your alarm because you want to start promoting
23:49 at midnight, throw some tweets out there until like 1:00 AM. Then wake up early the next
23:53 morning, get at it early. All this stuff counts. Like he's watching, like he's, he's Santa
23:59 Claus in a way that he is. He sees it all. And if he doesn't, then he's got gas that
24:04 sees it. And he has other people that see it. Like you just, you don't want to be in.
24:09 Sometimes it's random. Sometimes it's tenure. Like I'm, I'm giving advice to the, to the
24:13 newer people. But if you're one of the older people that have been there, you don't need
24:18 me to tell you, but he'll go harder at the people that he knows he can do that with.
24:24 So black Friday was just a, it was a bad time. I feel like he just knew that I could take
24:28 it. So every fucking black Friday, I would just get sewered. But I'm just happy to not
24:33 be a part of that anymore. You, you were, I mean, yeah, you were pulled in on the Duncan
24:37 awards too. You were kind of always like the last line you were like, but the Duncan awards
24:42 was different because that one, like he was bringing in everyone into radio, like on their
24:47 hands and knees and tears. And I was just like, I, you know, I thought I looked good.
24:51 Like I disagree with your assessment of my outfit. I did quote, I quoted the, the confidence
24:57 last night is whenever people are in fighting in barstool, it reminds me of right after
25:01 the Duncan awards, this had happened. It was right around when the Francis thing was going
25:04 to happen as well. Cause he was involved in Duncan. You were Bob Fox and then also chef
25:09 Donnie and a $20 chef. Yeah. The big homey were fighting. Dave posted a selfie video
25:16 of him just going like this as his helicopter is leaving Manhattan airspace. It's all was
25:22 and I was there for guys. Like that was, that was cause I'd been there for just over a year,
25:26 but that was one of my, that was my first, like Dave destroyed me on live anything. I
25:30 remember being like, wow, that's really, we just got the strings pulled. This was, this
25:33 was, this was bad. Yeah. So yeah, that's good advice. Jerry, you say, say from your camera
25:39 will save as many items, whether they're yours or not, and just fucking post them everywhere.
25:43 Even if like, if you should, it's honestly worth like if you, if you were to go out there
25:48 and hire an intern and to, to give them your socials, it's worth it to pay them a hundred
25:52 dollars to just be like, just, just spam my timeline for 24 straight hours. That $100
25:58 would be the best $100 that you've ever invested. Um, anything, Kirk Kirk, you also mentioned
26:03 I saw you, you brought up on Twitter, your trivia team's debuting a new member, Jared,
26:07 a former member of your trivia team was your original. We were talking, Jared was on my
26:12 show last week, I think. Right. Jared. And, uh, and the way our team was sort of promoted
26:17 was Jared's team, me and Steve, which I quickly swallowed that. And I was basically like if
26:25 Pete best or the front man, I think it more is like when the under you or the manager
26:30 introduced the undertaker for the first time, like you just kind of bring somebody to bring
26:33 them out and then we, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it makes sense for Pete best. Yeah. We
26:40 have our debuting Hank on Thursday night. Yes. Yes. Against foreplay. Um, yeah. Yeah.
26:47 You had a tweet this morning, Rico helped out Bob Fox. I know. And I hate the woman
26:55 on that team too. I have no use for her. So we, you said, yeah, Gia Clemmer and Robbie,
27:01 but you said, uh, helping the enemy, all of them more. I would rank her first. Robbie
27:06 Fox is such a zero. I rank him zero. No matter what the list is, he's always zero. Clemmer
27:10 is on my show this week. So he's fine, but I have no Rico. I think I'm in the band. There's
27:17 not a lot of worry about Hank getting a phone or friend call, but I think I'm going to all
27:21 due respect to the commissioner. I think I'm going to ban my team from accepting phone
27:24 or friend calls. I can do your call your team. I can do it. Um, of course I never get called,
27:30 which may seem who knows even stranger as time goes on Jeff, but I, I was, uh, been
27:35 called one time. One. I didn't answer. Cause I was there. Jared, you have a guest, uh,
27:40 Brandon Walker. No enemy. An enemy. Isn't Brandon Walker an enemy? Who is an enemy?
27:46 He's like, he's not real. A new enemy. One of the newest enemy. Very recent enemy. Yeah.
27:51 Um, man, I have a nickname for Jeff. I don't know if it's good on the rundown, but if you
27:58 guys want to get rid of it later, it's fine. It's uh, what is it? Cunt. Cunting cunt is
28:04 what I call her now. Megan making money. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a black Friday winter.
28:11 No, I don't know. There's always a, there's always a redemption arc for a team Kirk. I
28:17 don't see it. She's too stupid for members that kind of come back around. I don't know
28:20 if there is no, she's busy. She's, I mean, listen, somebody's gonna clean the bathrooms
28:23 in Chicago. You know? Wow. Um, did you have any, well, did Kirk, did you ever give any
28:30 thoughts of bringing me back when you had an open seat? Am I allowed? Am I eligible?
28:35 I don't know. I mean, you're doing this hot dog guys in the league. Of course you are
28:38 in the league. Yeah. I don't know. I'm the forgotten first member of a lot of things
28:45 around here. First member of team Kirk Minahan, uh, a forgotten first member of the yak. True.
28:52 Very true. I don't use many more, many more than that. He said many things you've listened
28:56 to. Could you ever think that wrestling, I guess the wrestling, yeah, me and Robbie Fox
29:04 the first broadcasters at Barstool sports radio. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Did you ever think
29:10 that when you were starting the yak, the first ever episode and you looked over and saw Steven
29:13 Shay through the glass that he'd be the Steven Shay he is right now. Yeah. Because I feel
29:18 like I knew Steven Shay, the, the, the non business floor, Steven Shay. So I knew that
29:24 he had it in him back then. Good friend to Kirk Steven Shay. Uh, but no, I, I, Jared,
29:30 I should have, as you said, you're a great phone. You're one of our great phone or friends.
29:34 So I didn't know that. That's what you're missing. Yeah. No, that's, that's probably
29:37 the, that's the smart one for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't get, I don't get dozen brain
29:43 as they say when it's true. It's a real term. I've seen it. Um, anything else for Jared
29:51 here? It's where I got like rarefied air with Jared is, I mean, he's on your show now and
29:55 then. So it's not like even like we haven't spoke to him or heard from him all the time.
29:59 It's great to have him here. It's good. I mean, eventually we know he's going to be
30:01 back in the company. So we're all kind of playing this game and we'll get through whatever's
30:04 going on now and he'll be back here in whatever, a year and a half. I don't know. I don't know
30:09 what the timeline is. Yeah. It's you never know. It's a never. I saw you decorated for
30:14 Christmas for the first time. I did. Yeah. Yeah. First time. You see the decorations
30:17 Kirk? Yeah, he's not on. You did. Yeah. Somebody sent it to me on Twitter. Somebody, I don't
30:22 know what it was. People said this stuff was on Instagram or something. Yeah, it was on
30:26 Instagram. It's a picture of it on Twitter. I think. Okay. Well yeah. I mean I was decorated.
30:31 I got to your Christmas guy. No, that's why. I mean, you just felt like you had to do it
30:36 this year. No, I mean like it's my first, it's my first Christmas as a homeowner. So
30:40 I feel like, like every, like people in my family were like, Oh, what are you going to
30:43 do? Not decorate for Christmas? Like that's super depressing. So my, my sister took my
30:49 credit card and bought Christmas decorations, came over, opened the boxes and then decorated.
30:55 So like it's like, I didn't have anything to do with it. Right. Okay. Okay. Does it
30:59 feel nicer walking around the house now with the. No, it's actually, no, it's just fucking
31:03 glitter everywhere. Like there's glitter everywhere. Yeah. Christmas is it's a nightmare. Yeah.
31:09 Oh, they stink. Just get through it. That's my advice. Just keep your head down and get
31:13 through it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And by March and post March. Yeah, absolutely.
31:19 Of course. Yes, yes, yeah. Yeah. Maybe drink some guy. I don't have it in front of me.
31:23 Just some cranberry high noon. Thank you to high noon for sponsoring the rundown. Jared,
31:26 great having you back. It's good to see you guys. It was an honor for Kirk, Jared, Jeff
31:30 Dillow. We'll talk to you tomorrow on the rundown.
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